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Originally posted by DJ Shibby the melodies are irrelevent it's mostly the bassline that makes a track full on. think machine gun basslines; those driving basslines that, even at 145 bpm, seem so much faster and crazier.

yes its the bassline. but full on also happens to be the stuff with most melodies.

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Originally posted by dj_palm please let me know which track this is and where i can buy it as mp3? its so sick good. if this is psy, psy might be what trance used to be. damn didnt know these tracks exists anymore.

it's Vibrasphere - Morning Breeze from their latest album Archipelagio. You can get it off Beatport or Audiojelly. or check out their website www.vibrasphere.com

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Originally posted by dj_palm please let me know which track this is and where i can buy it as mp3? its so sick good. if this is psy, psy might be what trance used to be. damn didnt know these tracks exists anymore.

that doesn't sound like psy. just prog. and psy won't ever be like trance was (at it's roots I mean). unless we get a miracle.

what other psy subgenres there are aside of goa, full on, psytekk and dark?

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Originally posted by tomoyo that doesn't sound like psy. just prog. and psy won't ever be like trance was (at it's roots I mean). unless we get a miracle.

ever heard of progpsy? It's been quite big since a couple of years with labels such as Iboga, Spiral Trax, Tribal Vision etc.

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what about Vibrasphere's album Archipelagio and Human Blue's album Electric Roundabout? And don't forget Jaïas amazing album Fiction.

Thanks, i'm gonna chech these albums ASAP.In a matter of fact i'm allready listening to samples from "Archipelago".It sounds good but a bit linear though.Does it evolve, are there any melodies and themes and stuff(lol, no i'm not listening to ASOT i just like "music") or just cool atmospheric trancey soundscapes?Is it like the "nasa" set(some light in the tunnel bla bla bla lol)?Also i don't find any big similarities between this "progpsy" stuff and the classic 90s psy-trance such as etnica, transwave, total eclipse,old juno reactor,doof,prana and stuff. These were faster, darker and noisy whereas progpsy is much more housey and cool.Why don't they call it "psychedelic house" lol?

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Originally posted by PETRAN Thanks, i'm gonna chech these albums ASAP.In a matter of fact i'm allready listening to samples from "Archipelago".It sounds good but a bit linear though.Does it evolve, are there any melodies and themes and stuff(lol, no i'm not listening to ASOT i just like "music") or just cool atmospheric trancey soundscapes?Is it like the "nasa" set(some light in the tunnel bla bla bla lol)?Also i don't find any big similarities between this "progpsy" stuff and the classic 90s psy-trance such as etnica, transwave, total eclipse,old juno reactor,doof,prana and stuff. These were faster, darker and noisy whereas progpsy is much more housey and cool.Why don't they call it "psychedelic house" lol?

thing is that many of the current progpsy producer did produce goa and psy trance back in the 90s. Check out Human Blue's album I.C.E. for instance. It's pure goa madness. And then compare it with his Electric Roundabout. He kept the melodies from the old sound and mixed it with progressive trance. It blends excellent.

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Another thread where everyone is arguing what type of psytrance is superior and people labeling certain styles as "cheesey." Just listen to what sounds good dammit. I personally love full on psy which many deem as lame and cheesey. Well its what I like. I don't go bashing on what you think in your mind is superior psy. We all like music of different kinds. Be respectful of other people's taste in music. I've typed this same message probably 5 times now in these same types of threads. If you want to see what kind of psy I like, click on the either thread link in my sig to see the tracklist. If you think full on is cheesey, then don't bother. To each his own. I also love a lot of progressive psytrance as well such as Lish, Yotopia, Vibrashpere, and Sun Control Species to name a few.

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Originally posted by Magnus Another thread where everyone is arguing what type of psytrance is superior and people labeling certain styles as "cheesey." Just listen to what sounds good dammit. I personally love full on psy which many deem as lame and cheesey. Well its what I like. I don't go bashing on what you think in your mind is superior psy. We all like music of different kinds. Be respectful of other people's taste in music. I've typed this same message probably 5 times now in these same types of threads. If you want to see what kind of psy I like, click on the either thread link in my sig to see the tracklist. If you think full on is cheesey, then don't bother. To each his own.

all full on is not cheesy. Bamboo Forest, Electric Universe, Silicon Sound etc is not cheesy. BUT the israeli trend with cheesy songs in the songs is really killing the genre.
Especially after reading the comments on isratrance.com .

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Originally posted by RebeL9 all full on is not cheesy. Bamboo Forest, Electric Universe, Silicon Sound etc is not cheesy. BUT the israeli trend with cheesy songs in the songs is really killing the genre. Especially after reading the comments on isratrance.com .

I totall agree here. I think sometimes people tend to just classify all full on as cheesey and write it off. Clearly you do not and you have an appreciation for good full on psy. I will admit there is mountains of bad, IMO, full on psy being produced weekly. With psy for me anyways, the bad majorly outweighs the good and you really have to look long and hard for the good full on stuff. Its out there but it seems to come in waves.

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Originally posted by Magnus Its out there but it seems to come in waves.

Totally right. Right now I think we're hittin a wave IMO. So many great albums recently out.. Enigmatic World Mexico, Electric Universe - Silence in Action, Optokoppler - Bugfix, and The Evolution Of Expanded Conciousness.

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