Originally posted by TOR
I think a track that is remembered and recognized by a large amount of people serveral years after the release date, can definitely be considered a classic.
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Jul-18-2006 21:16
SYSTEM-J
IDKFA.
Registered: Sep 2003
Location: Manchester
quote:
Originally posted by djmetatron
some people classify these as classics. some don't. quit pretending like your opinion is the standard.
Some people are ignorant to the complete history of trance and thus their definition of a classic is, by default, less informed than people with a more complete knowledge.
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Some people are ignorant to the complete history of trance and thus their definition of a classic is, by default, less informed than people with a more complete knowledge.
this is true but classics are still largely subjective. a die-hard trance fan circa 1992 could probably put forward a compelling argument as to why the tunes of his era deserve classic status more than those of the 'armin era', but what would be the use? the target audience of a cd like this would probably shun them as outdated, boring, and bearing scarce resemblence to the kind of trance they know
Jul-19-2006 05:38
SYSTEM-J
IDKFA.
Registered: Sep 2003
Location: Manchester
quote:
Originally posted by isoterra
the target audience of a cd like this would probably shun them as outdated, boring, and bearing scarce resemblence to the kind of trance they know
I would say people so close-minded have no authority to call anything classic then.
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
I would say people so close-minded have no authority to call anything classic then.
having a negative opinion isn't being close-minded
again, subjective. one man's classic is another man's dusty outdated blueprint. just as one man's classic is another man's generic throwaway pop tune. my point is that trance has been segregated into seperate scenes for christ knows how long now and each have their own history with their own classics... not all will agree with eachother and it's pointless preaching from one to another about what their most idolised tunes should be
Jul-19-2006 18:37
Push2005
Sidechain'd
Registered: Oct 2004
Location: Belgium
quote:
Originally posted by Phortastic
Yeah but the sad part is this asot public thinks ATRC is a classic
As much as I get disgusted from as the rush comes, it is (or shall be) considered as a classic (sooner or later).
Maybe it is sad yes; but every major trance jock spun it and everyone knows the track; so yeah, it's a classic.
Jul-19-2006 19:02
Cobalt
Trance Isn't Trance
Registered: Apr 2002
Location: Vancouver, BC
There will always be differing opinions on what qualifies as classic, but I'd agree with System-J that people must have an informed knowledge of the genre before they are qualified to engage in that debate. Someone for whom As The Rush Comes is an "old" track really has no business saying what's classic in trance or progressive as a whole.
Moreover, what gets billed as "classic" since 1999 has as much (or more) to do with marketing as it does with how good or memorable a given production is. For this reason alone, anything deemed classic in the past seven years deserves great scrutiny in such a label.
Jul-19-2006 21:06
SYSTEM-J
IDKFA.
Registered: Sep 2003
Location: Manchester
quote:
Originally posted by miamitranceman
Sorry, but that's an absurd post. Of course there are more knowledgable people, but that doesn't mean their opinion is the correct one.
I'm not saying they're correct. I'm saying their opinion is more valid.
quote:
Originally posted by isoterra
having a negative opinion isn't being close-minded
Not automatically no, but that isn't what you said. You said they'd discard these tracks because they're outdated and scarcely familiar. How exactly can a classic be outdated? And if someone discards something because it isn't familiar, then they're being close-minded. How the fuck will they ever expand their tastes if they discount anything unfamiliar?
Heh, this is pretty funny. You all seem to debate about what defines a Trance classic, but all I can think of is that the classics I know have all been received well by the Trance fans. Tunes like 'Seven Cities', 'Club Attack' etc. etc. IMO there hasn't ever been a debate about tunes like these. Nope, these tracks were instant classics and nobody thought otherwise. It seems that there are certain gradations now for tracks to be considered as a classic, if you know what I mean.
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