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Originally posted by 4-play Hmm...should i call them to find out? Or is that a stupid thing to do? You never know with these insurance companies. Thanks.

Try calling one thats not yours?

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Originally posted by 4-play Hmm...should i call them to find out? Or is that a stupid thing to do? You never know with these insurance companies. Thanks.

Don't call! The only way your insurer will know about it is if they run an "Auto Plus" search or request a copy of your driver abstract from the MTO. Despite what insurer's want you to believe they do not do this every time the policy renews as a $30 dollar search on every policy would cost too much money every year. Now, if you go calling them and asking then they may very well do a search to see why it is you would ask such a question.

Since PC is a direct writer I would recommend that if you must know you call an independent broker and ask.

BTW, someone mentioned Aviva earlier.... PC Insurance is also underwriten by Aviva Canada.

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Originally posted by RickyM you're just a shit version of Moral Hazard. At least he knows what he's talking about.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN lol, i love it when moral feels the need to lay the smack down

i dont know moral, by insurance company logic, no front liscence plate could be considered high risk......


my mom is the worst driver i have ever seen, she cant navigate, cant move with the flow of trafic, performs panic manouvers all the time and narrowly escapes accidents on a weekly basis and she is considered a perfect record.......

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN I have 3 hobbies: gaming, DJing & correcting maladjusted fools on the internet.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN Yeah, I’d like to know what horrible, scarring incident in your childhood turned you into such an ignorant, intellectual-hating philistine?

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Originally posted by Moral Hazard Don't call! The only way your insurer will know about it is if they run an "Auto Plus" search or request a copy of your driver abstract from the MTO. Despite what insurer's want you to believe they do not do this every time the policy renews as a $30 dollar search on every policy would cost too much money every year. Now, if you go calling them and asking then they may very well do a search to see why it is you would ask such a question. Since PC is a direct writer I would recommend that if you must know you call an independent broker and ask. BTW, someone mentioned Aviva earlier.... PC Insurance is also underwriten by Aviva Canada.

Well I think you can make general inquiries, though...

I don't think it will be necessary for underwriters to be pulling up an autoplus unless they are in the process of renewing the policy or underwriting new business...

As for the brokers...they could give you an answer...but again, different insurance companies have different rules...

Okay, try calling...if they ask for your policy number then hang up...hmmm...try calling other direct insurance companies (Aviva has other insurance companies like Scottish & York, OIS, etc.), if not then the brokers...

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Originally posted by Moral Hazard Don't call! The only way your insurer will know about it is if they run an "Auto Plus" search or request a copy of your driver abstract from the MTO. Despite what insurer's want you to believe they do not do this every time the policy renews as a $30 dollar search on every policy would cost too much money every year. Now, if you go calling them and asking then they may very well do a search to see why it is you would ask such a question. Since PC is a direct writer I would recommend that if you must know you call an independent broker and ask. BTW, someone mentioned Aviva earlier.... PC Insurance is also underwriten by Aviva Canada.

Well I think you can make general inquiries, though...

I don't think it will be necessary for underwriters to be pulling up an autoplus unless they are in the process of renewing the policy or underwriting new business...

As for the brokers...they could give you an answer...but again, different insurance companies have different rules...

Okay, try calling...if they ask for your policy number then hang up...hmmm...try calling other direct insurance companies (Aviva has other insurance companies like Scottish & York, OIS, etc.), if not then the brokers...

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Originally posted by colonelcrisp i dont know moral, by insurance company logic, no front liscence plate could be considered high risk...... my mom is the worst driver i have ever seen, she cant navigate, cant move with the flow of trafic, performs panic manouvers all the time and narrowly escapes accidents on a weekly basis and she is considered a perfect record.......

Dude, you're too funny

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Originally posted by colonelcrisp i dont know moral, by insurance company logic, no front liscence plate could be considered high risk...... my mom is the worst driver i have ever seen, she cant navigate, cant move with the flow of trafic, performs panic manouvers all the time and narrowly escapes accidents on a weekly basis and she is considered a perfect record.......

Remember, I am trained in insurance company logic!

If your mom hasn't had an at fault accident or conviction then she has not proven herself to be a risk. Insurance companies can only act on things they can prove.... part of our fudiciary responsibility and the principle of utmost good faith.

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Originally posted by RickyM you're just a shit version of Moral Hazard. At least he knows what he's talking about.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN lol, i love it when moral feels the need to lay the smack down

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Originally posted by sticky_shoes Okay, try calling...if they ask for your policy number then hang up...hmmm...try calling other direct insurance companies (Aviva has other insurance companies like Scottish & York, OIS, etc.), if not then the brokers...

Ontario Insurance Service is a broker.... also owned by Aviva.

Aviva owns the following insurers.... General Accident, Canadian General, Traders General, GAN, Scottish and York, Elite, Pilot, Ontario Teachers Insurance Plan (I think that's it). They underwrite PC Insurance. Aviva is owned in whole by Norwich Union.

Most of the big insurers are owned by other big insurers. ING owns Halifax, Dominion of Canada, Allianz, Zurich (commercial lines), Belair Direct, Nordic, Royal & Sun Alliance and underwrites Meloch Monnex which underwrites TD Insurance.

Economical owns Economical Mutual, Waterloo Insurance, Perth Insurance, Federation, and Missisquoi.

Fairfax Financial owns Northbridge which owns Lombard Canada, Trafalger, Commenwelth, Federated, and Markel.

I'm sure I've forgotten some and Chemy will probably add to this later.

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Originally posted by RickyM you're just a shit version of Moral Hazard. At least he knows what he's talking about.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN lol, i love it when moral feels the need to lay the smack down

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Originally posted by ChemEnhanced As a high risk driver....$4,490.00 isn't too bad. I've seen people with rates over $10,000.00 a year.

Me too. It's called "Ferrari".

OTIP is my parents insurer... i hate the assholes



so i have now embraced the fact taht im fucked..... tis ok.


moral you wouldnt be able to convince an insurance company that i deserve cheap insurance could you? id make it worth your while................



so i just traded my parents my leased car for their 98 minivan.... im still paying my lease payments but the insurance on the van is less than half that of my car. (no collision or comprehensive....)


so now ill be pickin up the chiquitas in a purple ford windstar!! wooot....

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN I have 3 hobbies: gaming, DJing & correcting maladjusted fools on the internet.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN Yeah, I’d like to know what horrible, scarring incident in your childhood turned you into such an ignorant, intellectual-hating philistine?

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Originally posted by 4-play A little off topic, but does getting a ticket for no front license plate effect your insurance? (PC insurance) Thanks.

No.


A couple years back I got 2 tickets one night. One was for lacking any sort of emission controls on my car and one was for not having the proper insurance slip. The nice cop (who could have towed my sorry ass but thankfully didn't) assured me that since these were not moving violations, my insurance would not be affected.

And it wasnt.

Last edited by Stingray on Aug-15-2006 at 15:16