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desidel: great post but some of the timelines are a bit off.
Guvernment was already hosting big name djs and mark was already playing a lot of (at the time) underground trance at guv as early as 97-98.
Also the dance culture in the world was at its peak during the 90s. It made a bit of a decline in the last 5 years as american influenced MTV Europe started polluting the new generation of europe with repeats of hip hop.
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oh yeah without a doubt Mark was rocking it back in 97-98. He played a big part in the development of the scene having played at many underground parties importing a lot of the sound we hear today from Scotland. Though what I was trying to emphasize in my post was that I don't think that Spin Sat. really started to gain the noteriety it has today atleast until 2000-2001 when trance really started to get popular in the dance scene, largely due to its spread and accessibility over the internet. I remember seeing Tiesto there the first time he played at the Guv (this was a few months after the first RaveStar Wintergalactic), the club was half empty! What was even funnier is that we only paid the regular $10 cover to see him lol ..
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The problem is with toronto, most of the root cause of club/party demise is from the government. Its artificial. Just like it will be artiicial when they go after nightclubs (which they are now starting to do to appease the whiners)
Honestly, this is why im so adament about the government taking away our rights. Ive watched it over and over again and they always find something new to control in our life. Worse yet, they present it as something that is "for our own good". im sick and tired of it.
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The funny thing is that Toronto isn't the only city that's faced these types of problems in North America. We've all seen that video of the famous 'rave crackdown' in Utah. The sad thing is that why are we being compared to the likes of Utah to begin with? The Rave Act was passed in the US shortly after 9/11, yet laws there are beginning to be relaxed and we're seeing the emergence of many large scale events there again.
I truly believe that eventually the laws here will be amended allowing the city to re-establish many of the types of events that it once held but by then don't expect Toronto to be at the forefront of the dance culture scene in North America.
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I find totally stupid for the government and the city of TO to bash EDM and big events by forcing large amounts of effin cops to be present. There is less trouble at Rave events, concerts like Tiesto at the docks, etc etc than going to something like Slayer or other metal band...
on a non-electronic music matter, every year I go to Woodstock in Quebec (used to live 20mins away) www.woodstockenbeauce.qc.ca ....and 70,000+ people show up over the weekend Booze up, smoke up and drug up all u want in there.....and no harrassment from the cops(except when you leave). The amount of drugs and alchohol taken on that weekend is greater than any Rave events in TO.....and its not a problem!
There is not a single cop on the premises, only at the entrance and exits. At any given time you'll find less than 20 cops... The funny thing is that they know that people go there to smoke weed and have a weekend of peace and fun....and dont put lame anti-partying law....
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if i had to sum it up with 2 reasons, it'd be..
1. The scene's association with designer drugs.
2. The fact that electronic music still has not fully crossed over into mainstream culture in North America and therefore does not hold the same legitimacy or have the same level of corporate sponsorship as other types of music like Rap, Top40, and Alternative.
By large, it's still a very misunderstood genre of music and scene and general. It is growing, and getting more popular each year, but there's still a long way to go.
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Last edited by dEsidEL on Aug-18-2006 at 03:36
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