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| quote: | Originally posted by Sexy_Warden87
Renegade.
Whether or not Saddam Hussein had WMD or not the main focus |
I hear ya. I wouldn't want to be too focused on those conclusive albeit substantially inaccurate false claims made by this Administration on his WMD stockpiles either.
I also wouldn't want to bear down too much on the details of his connections to al Qaeda and 9/11, because those silly little intelligence reports continually state "no operational ties" over and over too.
These two silly points need to continue being handwaved away. Why don't more people see the irrelevance like you and I?
| quote: | | should be the fact that he had the intentions and abilities to produce them. |
I hear ya on that one too. It's pretty interesting really, when one thinks about all those other countries that hates our guts with such vigor that have these similar intentions of their own.
I personally can't wait until we invade each and every one of them. It might take awhile to invade about a dozen or so, but that's why we need the neocons to remain in power, IMO.
And I really hate that darn Duelfer report myself. You know, the one that outlined how Saddam's capabilities were destroyed years before in the 90's successfully by that blow-job lovin' Democrat. Hindsight schmindsight, who cares? Operation Curveball was a raging success, IMO, and I wish we had more intelligence folks coming from Chalabi's Iraqi Exile Group giving us false info. on WMD capability and stockpiles to feed to the public and Congress.
But hey, at least that Judy Miller character out of that stupid librul NYTimes newspaper did the job well enough. Thank God for her!
I also think we need to be pretty downright dismissive of George Tenet when he says things like this:
Of course then he goes on and states that the situation, however, is LIKELY, even though we don't have good intelligence on the matter.
I mean, who wants to read such stupid details? I mean, yeah, I GUESS we have to concede the point NOW that we know Saddam was indeed, hapless and incapable of doing jack shit and has been incapable for years (damn that Duelfer character!), but I really hate cuttin' hairs on this stuff, don't you?
| quote: | | Secondly, imagine still having him today as a dictator. |
Oh man, tell me about it! I would have given up the hunt right there on the spot for the bastard fuck who actually attacked us in Tora Bora to go after this hapless dictator in another country that had nothing to do with 9/11 any day of the week and twice on Sundays! Damn straight!
If Bush states that he doesn't think too much about bin Laden, why the hell would I?
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/rele...20020313-8.html
Nothing wrong with a few truces with al Qaeda boys and our terrific ally, Pakistan:
| quote: | The Pakistani regime of Gen. Pervez Musharraf has been negotiating truces - with the Bush administration's encouragement - with Islamic separatists in North Waziristan and South Waziristan, mountainous tribal areas along the Afghan border where U.S. officials think bin Laden may be hiding.
In return, Pakistani officials are promising to restrict the country's troops in the area to major bases and towns and to pour huge amounts of aid - much of it from the United States and other nations - into the destitute region, according to American officials.
But as the truces take hold, separatists have been crossing into Afghanistan to fight alongside Taliban and al-Qaida fighters, according to Western and Afghan officials.
http://www.realcities.com/mld/krwas...ld/15419933.htm |
Baah, even lately the guy's not important to me or Bush:
| quote: | We now know why the Bush administration hasn't made the capture of Osama bin Laden a paramount goal of the war on terror. Emphasis on bin Laden doesn't fit with the administration's strategy for combating terrorism. Here's how President Bush explained this Tuesday: "This thing about . . . let's put 100,000 of our special forces stomping through Pakistan in order to find bin Laden is just simply not the strategy that will work."
Rather, Bush says there's a better way to stay on offense against terrorists. "The way you win the war on terror," Bush said, "is to find people [who are terrorists] and get them to give you information about what their buddies are fixing to do."
http://www.weeklystandard.com/Conte...12/696wnfcp.asp |
Thank goodness we got a hapless dictator in his place! I just can't stress that importance enough! Well, even though the place has gone to hell in a handbasket on the brink of a civil war and we've installed an Islamic fundamentalist regime allied with our new greatest enemy, Iran, but I just don't care! Why get all ruffled over such details?
| quote: | | During the sanctions 500.000 people died in Iraq of hunger and more would probably have suffered if we had continued the sanctions and when the spotlight had turned away from Saddam - he would have continued the production. Solid evidence is not important in this matter. |
Damn straight! Solid evidence is NEVER important on these things.
I sure wish Bush would have made a more humanitarian approach to this whole mess. For some darn reason all I can remember is WMD being pointed at our heads, manless drones being launched within 45 minutes, aluminum tubes for centrifuging, uranium being purchased in Africa, meetings in Prague with Iraqi admin. higher ups and Mohammed Atta from al Qaeda, we are about to get attacked NOW NOW NOW so we must invade NOW NOW NOW, al Qaeda and Saddam are best buddies, anyone who thinks otherwise is unAmerican and is only aiding the terrorists, and somewhere down on that rationale list that seemingly rarely if ever got mentioned were the humanitarian problem.
Hmmm, that must have been the same reason why Bush thought so damn hard to invade all those other countries that have such a monumental humanitarian crisis, problems that merely dwarf Saddam's atrocities on his own people. We did invade the Congo, didn't we? Somalia? All those countries in Africa? Half the Middle East?
Dang, can't remember. All I remember now is we must stay the course, and the libruls are helping the terrorists.
| quote: | | And additionally the terror or WMD part is not the most important in my opinion. |
Of course it isn't! You don't need to keep telling me, brother! I have done my part and have successfully erased all those messages our beloved President and staff gave about the threat of WMD pointed right at our skulls by Saddam, all those speeches over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over about how we MUST invade NOW DAMNIT!!! NOW!!! Those things are irrelevant in my view too.
We sure do think alike, you and I.
| quote: | | The most important is the fact that the US is trying to make a regime change in the potentionally strongest land in the middle East and creating democracy. and u might say they have failed in this matter but thats another side of the story. |
Hey, you don't hear me saying that! That Renegade fella isn't even from America, so don't bother listenin' to that terrorist-lovin' Aussie! I don't want to hear that other side of the story myself. I thought Rummy was spot on for having absolutely no fucking clue, or more importantly, completely dismissive of anyone bringing up a viable post-war plan post-invasion to bring in a new regime. Things are TERRIFIC there!
Iran is jealous I tell ya! They SO wanna be like Iraq. So does Syria. So does anyone! Forced "democracy" with guns and tanks is awesome! I mean, the "democracy" may look a little wierd and all, maybe not quite what we expected, maybe nothing like what we expected especially being a little Shiitish with having close ties to our enemy Iran and all, but you can just tell Iran wants the same. They're BEGGING to be invaded with a choice war! They SO want to have anywhere between 60,000-100,000 civilians to be killed just like Iraq.
And I tell ya, our folks here in America DEMANDS we keep sending troops into other countries so we can bring our brave soldiers home in body bags, all 2,500 of them. And I tell ya, as a physical therapist in training, I LOVE seeing how we can help those 15,000 or so disabled men and women who've got their arms and legs blown off, so I can help them return to their normal functional activities of daily living with no legs! It's just fucking AWESOME, man! You should see them hobble around the rehab ward with big ass grins on their faces as if they just have no cares in the world! I swear I think they're almost happier with a limb or three missing! And my buddy who's about to get his PhD in psychology can't WAIT to get his hands on all those vets who've suffered from post-traumatic stress syndrome as well as depression, anger management, divorce, oh man the list is endless!
Well I don't know about you, but I'm sure thinking about dropping out of school and joining up so I can support my leader and cause of invading every fucking troubled country out there! Whadya say, buddy? Will you join me? I just can't see any better way to support my President and his cause of global invasion and world policing other than joining up and fighting in the front line for the cause. Don't you agree? I can't stand all those 101st keyboardists out there who talk the talk and send others out there to fight for them while they sit around and fight for their cause over the internet. I just can't stand to be one of those bastards anymore. When shall we sign up together?
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Whence September dusk grows crisper still,
with leaves all crimson conquered,
I yearn to shout,
and dance about,
and stick pickles in my honker...
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