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Originally posted by iammesol Hes friggin' tired guys. Give him a break. If you traveled the world and never stopped, you'd want to eventually quit too. I'm sure he kinda' wants to start a family with his wife now anyway.

WTF does that have to do with his ranking? Does he have to drop below a certain ranking in order to retire?

MichaelBoogerd!, we all realize that you're Tiesto's biggest fan, but you don't have to defend him for everything out there. You know as well as I that that emcee has been annoyingly interrupting sets for years to spew that nonsense. When someone said "Do you think he cares?" I said "Yes, because he paid someone to constantly state it at all of his gigs during the sets," because that is the reality, is it not? Obviously, he didn't have him saying it for the past 11 months, since he wasn't #1, but are you saying that guy wasn't with him in 2005? I thought he was there for Ultra, but I could be thinking of recorded sets I've listened to. I'm honestly amazed if he wasn't there a year ago for the LA Tiesto in Concert.

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Originally posted by MichaelBoogerd! So, someone in his show (over two years ago) screamed "yeahhh great number 1 number 1" means Tiesto obviously still cares about number 1 position. Thank you, for that reality check.

don't be such a fanboy now. you know it very well that that position means almost everything to Tiesto. In fact it even gave him the chance to play at the Olympics and Disneyland.

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Originally posted by Push2005 Old news is so exciting !

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Originally posted by Groundhog Boy WTF does that have to do with his ranking? Does he have to drop below a certain ranking in order to retire? MichaelBoogerd!, we all realize that you're Tiesto's biggest fan, but you don't have to defend him for everything out there. You know as well as I that that emcee has been annoyingly interrupting sets for years to spew that nonsense. When someone said "Do you think he cares?" I said "Yes, because he paid someone to constantly state it at all of his gigs during the sets," because that is the reality, is it not? Obviously, he didn't have him saying it for the past 11 months, since he wasn't #1, but are you saying that guy wasn't with him in 2005? I thought he was there for Ultra, but I could be thinking of recorded sets I've listened to. I'm honestly amazed if he wasn't there a year ago for the LA Tiesto in Concert.

but you realize that everytime we "defend," other people immediately take the other side. It goes both ways

And "the f***" that it has to do with it is the fact that he pleases his fans as much as he can. He doesn't want to have responsibility to travel everywhere and please everyone of them under the sun.

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Originally posted by RebeL9 don't be such a fanboy now. you know it very well that that position means almost everything to Tiesto. In fact it even gave him the chance to play at the Olympics and Disneyland.

Actually you should open your eyes.
There's a difference between being a fanboy and knowing hell of a lot of a Dj. He is one of them. You should read TA more if you think he's a fanboy; because even this guy criticised ISOS 5 in a fair way. It's not because you honestly attempt to give Tiësto some credit where he deserves it (he gets bashed too much anyway) that you're immediately have to be seen as a fanboy...

He hasn't even a custom status with "Tiësto-addict"; whereas you are a Digital Blonde whore... So shut up already

And Tiësto not playing in Disneyland wouldn't change his career at all. And don't forget Richie Hawtin also opened the Winter olympics... You're comments are useless this time. Normally you think your arguments more toroughly RebeL9.

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Originally posted by DJ Nickazz It will never stop I suppose.

+1 .. i guess some people here dont have a good or regular normal life, and use this forum to express their all-day irritations, even if they have to bash a dj who does some nice stuff, or did good stuff recently (or whatever you call it)

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Originally posted by Push2005 Actually you should open your eyes. There's a difference between being a fanboy and knowing hell of a lot of a Dj. He is one of them. You should read TA more if you think he's a fanboy; because even this guy criticised ISOS 5 in a fair way. It's not because you honestly attempt to give Tiësto some credit where he deserves it (he gets bashed too much anyway) that you're immediately have to be seen as a fanboy... He hasn't even a custom status with "Tiësto-addict"; whereas you are a Digital Blonde whore... So shut up already And Tiësto not playing in Disneyland wouldn't change his career at all. And don't forget Richie Hawtin also opened the Winter olympics... You're comments are useless this time. Normally you think your arguments more toroughly RebeL9.

Oh so my custom status makes me a fanboy? If that is the case wouldn't it also make him a fanboy since his info mentions Tiesto only? Use your brain, not your ass mister before making this statement.

And yes I'm damn sure that Tiesto wouldn't even be close to playing at the Olympics if it wasn't for the DJ Mag. remember that they presented him as "worlds nr 1 DJ" when he played there. They didn't even refer to DJ Mag. He was just "Worlds nr 1 DJ". Like if it was written in stone.

And no I'm not a Tiesto basher. There are other DJs and producers which dropped even more than Tiesto. Besides he is often already bashed so much there is not much left bashing actually. He dropped so much in quality that I nowadays more see him as a DJ which caters to mainly the commercial public. He is more of a pop icon nowadays. And when I think of it I'm pretty sure that was his choice. He wanted to become commercial and he succeeded. He lost fans and gained others. I remember reading an interview with a DJ which said that he prefered to stay off the commercial scene because the commercial audience would listen to him for a while but forget him in a couple of months while a dedicated fanbase would follow his career for several years.

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I admit i'm a fanboy. But the fuck am I a fanboy for Tiesto.

Michael Boogerd is my hero. If you don't know who that is. then oh dear







I can and will defend Tiesto in these posts, because remarks against him like these are completely subjective nonsense. Posted in an overly-bias fashion due to people's incessant need to bitch on the guy who succeeded.

Groundhog - true, the MC was Over The Top excessive ballshit. But its stopped now hasn't it. My point was, it has stopped. Based on that, how can you make a reason up for Tiesto caring for the DJ Mag Poll because he has a MC?

Rebel & Groundhog & the rest - yeah he lost the plot. He absolutely sucked ass in 2004. 2005, some people say he improved. But ISOS4 ruined it for me. What a load of shit that was.

2006 - and does he really deserve the award? I'd say No. ISOS5 was even worse than the 4th one, however, i believe i straightened my view out with Tijs about this, and he confirmed it was rushed, it was a mistake to use Ableton to mix it, and it WAS a concept CD but without announcing it.

He is sincere about this statement he made. 3 months ago, he told me the same thing. Its a real pity, in hindsight, that he made this statement AFTER most of his harem voters would've already pledged their loyal vote to him already... for that reason, it does come off a lot like "i won't win, but i'll save face".

I think a lot caught up with him in the last 12 months. Because he wasn't number 1 last November, he could look at himself in the mirror, and without Touring so extensively he could also analyse himself, and realise for the first time in years just what he was doing wrong.

Thats changed since this time off (circa Jan-Mar 2006) and although ISOS5 was a huge disappointment, his livesets have proven to me this year, that he at least, is starting to:
a) come to terms with mixing cds
b) putting the effort in to structure & mix his sets back to the best of his ability.

He will never be a technically superb DJ, but c'mon, he doesnt need a popularity poll win to consolidate or gain popularity. While he obviously sees and speaks to the other TOp 10 DJs regularly - especially during the summer months at festivals, I'd say he got the idea from there, that it would be better that some new talents come to the foreground.

Is it that hard to give this man some shred of respect back?

If I had to answer that question, I'd say you guys are never gonna be satisfied by him again. The new album, he has worryingly said would sound like He's A Pirate. I pray to god that isn't true! But wait and see. Maybe he can still surprise us with a new mix CD concept at the end of next year... one that won't have 5-6 years of history and standards to ruin

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Originally posted by RebeL9 And yes I'm damn sure that Tiesto wouldn't even be close to playing at the Olympics if it wasn't for the DJ Mag.

Tiesto has a massive following in Greece. This stems back to all-night sets in places like Venue in Athens going back to 2001-2002 period. Greece is one of the first countries he made an impact in basically. This was certainly confirmed during 2003 - with 3 separate visits to the area, when the schedule normally allows for 1 weekend max.

The organisor of the opening ceremony saw a copy of the first TIC DVD. He booked the performer he saw on that footage, because he represented a modern day icon - to spruce up the opening ceremony and breathe life into what was becoming a very predictable procession.

By modern day icon, i mean - he saw him as someone 'cool' who would represent the younger persons interests in watching the ceremony. I think it worked. The whole theme of the Greek olympics was to combine the ancient games' original home, with the modernity of the current version.

It had nothing to do with his status as number 1 DJ. When he was asked to cover the olympics - it was still September/October 2003. Almost a full year before the performance.

The 'become commercial gameplan' from Tijs was centred around winning the award in 2003 after the Tiesto In Concert. However, he won it already a year ago. Not on 'selling out' but by actually being very good during 2002. Unfortunately that meant the next years of his career were not living up to that high standard, but more a struggle to keep up the stakes in popularity by becoming increasingly transparent as a performer at bombastic audacious one-off concertgigs.

In my opinion, his ego, his commercial value and his downward spiral started in the lead up to the Olympics gig, and peaked at the Olympics itself. Tijs remained in that elevated status for close to a year, before it all came crashing down at the end of 2005.
Part of this realisation occured during the USA TIC tour - which went horribly wrong. Even the parties that did survive the weather, were deemed unsuccessful by the people that mattered. Tiesto's charm had run out and the real Tiesto emerged as he toured Eastern Europe refinding and rekindling the spark what he was doing, and WHY he was doing it. Sorry - i wandered offtopic

I repeat. He was not given the Olympics because he was NUmber 1.

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Originally posted by MichaelBoogerd! I repeat. He was not given the Olympics because he was NUmber 1.

funny that he was promoted in the press as "Nr 1 DJ in the world" before and after the ceremony. I doubt he would have played there if he was say nr 10 on the list. Or do you really think so?

Oh when I meant sellout I draw the line from the time when he changed his artist name to "Tiesto". Around the Traffic era in 2003. That was when he was more or less a pop icon and no longer a DJ to count with.

Another thing that struck me when I heard his Loveparade 2006 set was that he almost seemed bored. He was kind of like playing on routine. The tunes and the track selection didn't make any sense.

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Originally posted by RebeL9 funny that he was promoted in the press as "Nr 1 DJ in the world" before and after the ceremony. I doubt he would have played there if he was say nr 10 on the list. Or do you really think so? Oh when I meant sellout I draw the line from the time when he changed his artist name to "Tiesto". Around the Traffic era in 2003. That was when he was more or less a pop icon and no longer a DJ to count with. Another thing that struck me when I heard his Loveparade 2006 set was that he almost seemed bored. He was kind of like playing on routine. The tunes and the track selection didn't make any sense.

He's was promoted that way everywhere from 2003-2005. Its not his fault he was popular is it?

Agreed. That did strike a big blow to his 'underground' appeal. But i dont think it mattered too much. The namechange was for legal reasons based on the production team behind his releases, not the fact he was becoming less of a DJ and more a popstar.

He played for 20 minutes. I'm sure even the best DJ in the world ever, would've been able to look alive in that set time. Sometimes i admit, he does switch off and go into auto-pilot. But the times this happens are a lot less this year compared to 2003-5.

I'd argue that upward trend is a direct result of slowing down touring, and accepting his place in the pecking order... wherever it may be in a few months time

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