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Originally posted by Ishkur Last year had Kylie Minogue, LCD Soundsystem and New Order as nominees. Do you really expect these neophyte punters to know the difference between dance and electronic dance? Especially when the mastermind behind Madonna's latest fix is Stuart fucking Price?

Uhm, yes. Like I said, there's a difference between best dance recording and best dance album. Kylie Minogue and New Order weren't nominated for best dance album. Clearly there's a distinction between best dance album and best dance recording. I'm pretty certain Madonna's cd won't be in the best dance album cateogory but rather the pop category. One or more of her singles, however, might be under best dance recording.

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We're not talking about the difference between albums and singles, we're talking about the difference between electronic, dance and pop.

To the Academy, there really is none and never has been. Check the past years nominees in the field. The Britneys and Janets take home the hardware, not the BTs and Oakenfolds.

(Madonna's already won the award before, btw...for Ray of Light. That means she will sweep for Confessions)

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Originally posted by Ishkur We're not talking about the difference between albums and singles, we're talking about the difference between electronic, dance and pop.

Could've sworn that's what I'm talking about, hence my references to the differences between best dance track and best dance album. Since the Best Dance/Electronic Album category was introduced two years ago several dance acts have been nominated. PVD for Reflections and Sasha for Involver, I believe BT's Emotional Technology was also nominated. The first winner of the Best Dance/Electronic Album was Basement Jaxx with Kish Kash and last year was The Chemical Brothers for Push The Button. The thread title is "best edm album" not best dance track. So although Madonna's cd is dancey and produced by Stewart Price she's a pop artist, not a dance artist.

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Madonna is probably the most important dance artist of the last half century. Her music has always been dance music. You cannot dispute this.

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Originally posted by Ishkur Madonna is probably the most important dance artist of the last half century.

Are you that daft? Jesus.

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Originally posted by dj_bas Are you that daft? Jesus.

have you been to a club lately?

have you been to a gay club?

"Madonna. Always works."

Just because Madonna gets played in a club doesn´t automatically make her a dance artist.

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i would of voted movements but binary universe turned so many heads it deserves to win imo.

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Originally posted by Eddie N MIAMI Brass Monkey that funky Monkey Chang Monkey Chelsea junkie That fucking Monkey

i would of voted movements but binary universe turned so many heads it deserves to win imo.

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Originally posted by Eddie N MIAMI Brass Monkey that funky Monkey Chang Monkey Chelsea junkie That fucking Monkey

Well, this ranks up there in the all time top list of good threads gone bad.

Good show gentlemen

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tell me ishkur, one thing. Have you listened to ray of light (the Album), because other than Ray Of Light, Sky Fits Heaven & Skin, where is the trance, tell me, i really want to know.

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Originally posted by Cobalt Why don't we have that responsibility? This really speaks more of a fundamental difference in idea of what responsibility is, than whether we are responsible or not. I don't think third-world poverty or war is America's fault or something fringe like that. But I am of the opinion that if someone has the means to better the lot of all, then they have responsibility to that goal. This is the rationale for progressive taxation, really. Most Americans don't think this way about responsibility; we're a highly individualistic society. And that's why we take so little burden in considering solutions to the problems of the world. So the subject to argue is not really whether America is responsible for action or not. That's pretty pointless when we have different ideas of what responsibility means. The thing to argue is what we are socially responsible for, if anything.

Excellent post. Much respect.

As for album.... I wish Moshic's Salamat would get a nomination, but that's probably pretty unlikely. I could see Oakenfold winning it since his name, like Basement Jaxx or Chemical Brothers, is actually known in the US. Though Ishkur is probably right... they'll probably go with Madonna -- after all, most of my friends consider Hung Up to be "techno".

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