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Krypton
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Registered: Nov 2003
Location: Texas

I hope FOley didn't screw it up for the rest of us...

Old Post Oct-25-2006 15:05  Korea-Democratic Peoples Republic
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Magnetonium
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Registered: Sep 2001
Location: Port Burwell, Ontario, Canada

quote:
Originally posted by kush paintings
Magnetonium, Im still waiting your response in the thread I started about how the U.S. political system "really" works.


Its fucked up, this is a long long subject, so I wont bother, and to tell you the truth, its not my field of expertise.

quote:
Originally posted by Q5echo
ok. what then? what do they have to do with anything? i'm open for your insight. seriously.


Ugh, you guys are killing me. My point is - it doesnt matter who you are voting for: republicans or democrats - its the same dam thing that represents same corporations, same interests same politics. Its like choosing a green BMW over a red BMW - no difference, other than appearance. Except the new republicans have a massive injection from the neo-cons ;-) I refer to them as the "republican steroids" ;-)

Dont get me wrong, if you're voting local politicans, like city mayor, MP or some other small duck, then the chances are they'll do you good because they work for your local interests. But for the "global" political system, presidential elections are pre-determined. Policial games, deceit and behind-the-scenes compromises and treaties have long ago decided who runs the country and who gets what. Thats my overview on it, no point in arguing this because I am not pulling out any more "hard evidence" because as I noticed earlier its completely pointless and a waste of time for a college student who is trying to catch up on advanced physics.


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Q5echo
asymetrical scepticism



Registered: Feb 2004
Location: Dallas

quote:
Originally posted by Magnetonium


Its fucked up, this is a long long subject, so I wont bother, and to tell you the truth, its not my field of expertise. Ugh, you guys are killing me. My point is

Dont get me wrong, what. Thats my overview on it, no point in arguing this because I am not pulling out any more "hard evidence" because as I noticed earlier its completely pointless and a waste of time for a college student who is trying to catch up on advanced physics.


okay i've heard you correctly. so, what you're saying is that we shouldn't ever vote for people who have gone to Yale and were part of this secret campus order called the "Skull&Bones Society". is that it?

i mean i know it's not advanced physics but do i understand you correctly? seriously.

Old Post Oct-26-2006 04:25  United States
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Q5echo
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Registered: Feb 2004
Location: Dallas

quote:
Originally posted by Magnetonium
Except the new republicans have a massive injection from the neo-cons ;-) I refer to them as the "republican steroids" ;-)
.


hey, easy there red. no need to bring up Neoconservatism. we can have this dicussion without trashing my kind

Old Post Oct-26-2006 04:30  United States
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MisterOpus1
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Registered: Dec 2001
Location: Kansas City

quote:
Originally posted by Q5echo
here's the response to the MJFox ad that will air today.



Little time to get into this debate with much detail, but I will say that Limbaugh's attacks at Fox were not even worth replying to. Typical extremist Coulter-like slime tactics that deserve no more mention.

The ad itself, however, is kinda funny considering that Kurt Warner and Mike Sweeney are in there. Can't speak for too many St. Louis fans, but folks here in KC can't stand Sweeney. He wore out his welcome long ago, despite his great hitting abilities. The ****** is ALWAYS injured, and never plays more than 1/2 the freaking season. Shoulda traded him long ago. There were also rumors a season or two ago that teammates were getting tired of his Bible-thumping bullshit in the lockerroom (that is admittedly heresay, but the AM sports radio guys ate it up for a while). Then again, not much else to expect from our Walmart owner in the first place. God I miss the 80's and the Royals.....


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King Ecnal
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Registered: Jan 2005
Location: Massachusetts

quote:
Originally posted by MisterOpus1
The ad itself, however, is kinda funny considering that Kurt Warner and Mike Sweeney are in there. Can't speak for too many St. Louis fans, but folks here in KC can't stand Sweeney. He wore out his welcome long ago, despite his great hitting abilities. The ****** is ALWAYS injured, and never plays more than 1/2 the freaking season. Shoulda traded him long ago. There were also rumors a season or two ago that teammates were getting tired of his Bible-thumping bullshit in the lockerroom (that is admittedly heresay, but the AM sports radio guys ate it up for a while). Then again, not much else to expect from our Walmart owner in the first place. God I miss the 80's and the Royals.....


yeah wtf... like I needed to HATE Kurt Warner even more!!!

What a joke...


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Q5echo
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Registered: Feb 2004
Location: Dallas

this is one reason why liberals will not achieve a damn thing this year.


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Old Post Oct-27-2006 04:12  United States
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Q5echo
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Location: Dallas

holy crap, Webb is TOAST!

>this is some repugnant shit right here<

quote:
“A shirtless man walked toward them along a mud pathway. His muscles were young and hard, but his face was devastated with wrinkles. His eyes were so red that they appeared to be burned by fire. A naked boy ran happily toward him from a little plot of dirt. The man grabbed his young son in his arms, turned him upside down, and put the boy’s penis in his mouth.”


what i wouldn't give to see the look on Chris Mathews's face when he found out about this

he prolly looked like someone shot his dog...serves him right, the old bastard. he'll prolly claim that the issue is "too complicated now" to cover it like he covered the whole Macaca incident a la "PlameGate"

Old Post Oct-27-2006 04:47  United States
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josh4
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Registered: Dec 2003
Location: New York City

^ LOL what is going on in congress!

here are some more kewl colored graphs:
http://www.pollster.com/senate.php

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MisterOpus1
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Registered: Dec 2001
Location: Kansas City

quote:
Originally posted by Q5echo
holy crap, Webb is TOAST!

>this is some repugnant shit right here<



what i wouldn't give to see the look on Chris Mathews's face when he found out about this

he prolly looked like someone shot his dog...serves him right, the old bastard. he'll prolly claim that the issue is "too complicated now" to cover it like he covered the whole Macaca incident a la "PlameGate"


Hmm, perhaps, or we could hope that Matthews actually puts such quotes in context on fictional stories, especially those stories based on the insanities of war like that of Vietnam. Perhaps that's something that McCain could attest to, and perhaps that's why he even ENDORSED Webb's book:

quote:
From Publishers Weekly
Webb's cultural and political portrayal of Vietnam 25 years after the war's end is delivered with such bold strokes and magical detail that it really doesn't matter that the plot itself is relegated to the backseat. This is a highly personal and empathetic look at today's Vietnam, a land of misery and inequity, yet one still vibrantly alive. The story follows the experiences of Brandon Condley, an ex-Marine whose job it is to find missing American soldiers, dead or alive. Condley is trying to track down Theodore Deville, an army grunt who not only deserted his unit in 1969 and killed a fellow serviceman, but then joined the ranks of the enemy. Condley is convinced Deville is still alive, operating somewhere in southeast Asia's underground economy. Webb introduces a rich cast of supporting characters as Condley pursues his quarry across Vietnam, Australia, the former Soviet Union and Thailand. Among the most delicately etched is Dzung, a former South Vietnamese officer now relegated, like thousands of others on the losing side, to a menial station in life, one that he and his family have no hope of escaping. Such characters, as well as the highly textured mood and atmosphere that Webb creates, tend to further eclipse the main narrative and shift the focus to the moral consequences and social fallout of the war. This detailed, lovingly drawn portrait of Vietnam reveals a sad, tortured country that has never recovered from the horrifying events of a quarter-century ago. Major print and radio advertising. (Sept. 4)Forecast: Webb (Fields of Fire) is no stranger to the bestseller lists; endorsements from heavy hitters like Sen. John McCain will help put him there once again.

http://www.amazon.com/Lost-Soldiers...ie=UTF8&s=books


Of course we should expect Allen to know everything about Vietnam because he was there with McCain and Webb serving, wasn't he?

Oh wait, dang. Not another GOP skirting the Vietnam war? Shoot, sorry.

You GOPers are funny. What fucking issues do you have left? You are down to nothing but sliming the fuck out of your opposition at all stops. You got your Senate leader telling you to ignore the biggest issue of this campaign:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006...D8KVN0K00.shtml

So I guess we all can understand why you're going ad hominem style rather than attacking the issues. Of course you won't listen to some of your own more experienced Conservative commentators:

quote:
Richard A. Viguerie, Chairman of ConservativeHQ.com, warned Republicans that scare tactics against Democrats will not succeed in increasing social or economic conservative voters on Election Day.

“The big-spending, high-deficit, morally-deficient Republican Party hasn’t anything to offer conservatives except Halloween scare tactics about the Democrats. But since the GOP majority in Congress has engaged in an unprecedented spending spree, conservatives know that Democrats cannot be any worse and that divided government may lead to less spending,” Viguerie said.

“And conservatives have learned that, while Republicans sometimes provide significant symbolism on social issues, in truth, many of them have a disdain for values voters,” he added.

“Trying to frighten conservatives by yelling ‘Nancy Pelosi’ and ‘Harry Reid’ won’t work this time."

http://www.conservativesbetrayed.co...ease-102406.php


So why does it truly matter anyway?

I have to hear the local radio of our state AG Phil Kline going after his opposition, a former GOP man who turned Democrat because he had enough of the insanity of the extremist Right running our state into the fucking ground. And then of course there's the slime of Bond going after his opponent in Missouri - Talent that little slimy fucking weasel won't even discuss Iraq, the fucking war he's supported Bush on at all stops (not that Talent supported the troops very well anyway: http://capwiz.com/iava/bio/?id=352). When the subject is brought up, Talent goes after McKaskill's finances instead and refuses to even talk about THE issue of the election (of course his hands aren't terribly clean in their own right on this regard: http://www.firedupmissouri.com/talent_paseo_securities). Typical.

But hey, let's not stop there with all the fun. Here's another local Bushite, and sadly to say a fellow KU Alumni, caught up in his own bullshit with Foley connections:

http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansa...al/15829375.htm

Then again, you guys seem to have more than just one issue with pages lately:

http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter...ahl_names_.html

But hey, corruption is abounds with you guys, such as one of your boys out in Nevada:

http://www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin/s.../566610130.html

Sliming Hillary:

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/pol...9p-390714c.html

Intimidating latino voters:

http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/merc...ia/15791512.htm

S. Florida's doing quite swimmingly too:

http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/15856692.htm

And the Tennessee ad against Ford was quite cute of you guys:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15418962/

Going after his fucking family, no less:

http://www.usnews.com/usnews/news/a...23tennessee.htm

Yes sir, no slimeball tactics from the GOP these days. All positive. All current, present-day issues. Keep at it, Q. You give me the hearty chuckles!


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I yearn to shout,
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Q5echo
asymetrical scepticism



Registered: Feb 2004
Location: Dallas

quote:
Originally posted by MisterOpus1
Hmm, perhaps, or we could hope that Matthews actually puts such quotes in context on fictional stories, especially those stories based on the insanities of war like that of Vietnam. Perhaps that's something that McCain could attest to, and perhaps that's why he even ENDORSED Webb's book:



Of course we should expect Allen to know everything about Vietnam because he was there with McCain and Webb serving, wasn't he?

Oh wait, dang. Not another GOP skirting the Vietnam war? Shoot, sorry.

You GOPers are funny. What fucking issues do you have left? You are down to nothing but sliming the fuck out of your opposition at all stops. You got your Senate leader telling you to ignore the biggest issue of this campaign:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006...D8KVN0K00.shtml

So I guess we all can understand why you're going ad hominem style rather than attacking the issues. Of course you won't listen to some of your own more experienced Conservative commentators:



So why does it truly matter anyway?

I have to hear the local radio of our state AG Phil Kline going after his opposition, a former GOP man who turned Democrat because he had enough of the insanity of the extremist Right running our state into the fucking ground. And then of course there's the slime of Bond going after his opponent in Missouri - Talent that little slimy fucking weasel won't even discuss Iraq, the fucking war he's supported Bush on at all stops (not that Talent supported the troops very well anyway: http://capwiz.com/iava/bio/?id=352). When the subject is brought up, Talent goes after McKaskill's finances instead and refuses to even talk about THE issue of the election (of course his hands aren't terribly clean in their own right on this regard: http://www.firedupmissouri.com/talent_paseo_securities). Typical.

But hey, let's not stop there with all the fun. Here's another local Bushite, and sadly to say a fellow KU Alumni, caught up in his own bullshit with Foley connections:

http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansa...al/15829375.htm

Then again, you guys seem to have more than just one issue with pages lately:

http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter...ahl_names_.html

But hey, corruption is abounds with you guys, such as one of your boys out in Nevada:

http://www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin/s.../566610130.html

Sliming Hillary:

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/pol...9p-390714c.html

Intimidating latino voters:

http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/merc...ia/15791512.htm

S. Florida's doing quite swimmingly too:

http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/15856692.htm

And the Tennessee ad against Ford was quite cute of you guys:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15418962/

Going after his fucking family, no less:

http://www.usnews.com/usnews/news/a...23tennessee.htm

Yes sir, no slimeball tactics from the GOP these days. All positive. All current, present-day issues. Keep at it, Q. You give me the hearty chuckles!


all that shits pointless if you don't live Virginia isn't it moron? dumb.

Old Post Oct-27-2006 05:52  United States
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Q5echo
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Registered: Feb 2004
Location: Dallas

quote:
Originally posted by MisterOpus1
Hmm, perhaps, or we could hope that Matthews actually puts such quotes in context on fictional stories, especially those stories based on the insanities of war like that of Vietnam. Perhaps that's something that McCain could attest to, and perhaps that's why he even ENDORSED Webb's book:


please tell me again why a Virginian should vote for Webb after reading that garbage. i don't give a fuck if he wrote that shit playin scrabble. who the fuck would vote for guy like that?

remember tard, this is a race for the US S-E-N-A-T-E! he's toast. next.

quote:
So I guess we all can understand why you're going ad hominem style rather than attacking the issues.


sure. you are a box of rocks.

Old Post Oct-27-2006 06:05  United States
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