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Originally posted by kid nyce i totally don't remember this but it was either sax, espinoza, or velarde -edit- damn these were the days lol barfield and TIMO MAAS days lol

kevin maas ?

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Originally posted by dj tek kevin maas ?

LOL no its TIMO I SAY TIMO MAAS hush with this kevin maas

-edit-you know me and jeff was on the same flight as timo going down to wmc the very first year lol he had a shirt on that said 'maas attack' big dude nonetheless

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Originally posted by Frequency Frank I could show you the program I have from a 1989 game I went to with Kevin Elster on the cover, but I don't care enough to scan them I cheered right through the horrendous trade of Dykstra for Juan Samuel, days when Benny Agbayani was their slugger, and other great moments in Mets sucking...I deserve my moment to enjoy the warmth of victory for once. Of course, they have 2 series to go, but that series against LA was nice.

lol! i too dont think i need to prove im a met fan by posting in the MLB thread... its sooooooo damn long and there is no way im gonna read that whole thing.... chances are id say somethign that was already said and then this board would jump all over me for "wasting everyones time"

you've all been there...

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Originally posted by Shamez214 I guess I'm not questioning your fandom as much as I am asking you guys to post more in the baseball thread. It gets pretty boring in there with the same 6 or 7 posters all year long. This is always a good question to ask a Yankee fan: Who was the Yankees shortstop before Derek Jeter?

You're going to have to trust me that I didn't look this up - For the better part of the year, Tony Fernandez. I became a fan in 95, as a 12 y/o caught up in the wildcard madness...

The thing that irks me about Mets fans is they say "HAH, see? Money really can't buy you a championship, maybe you should develop your farm more like us"... yet Reyes and Wright are the only farm hands contributing, and you're running the likes of Lo Docua, Beltran, Delgado, Pedro, Wagner, and Glavine out there.... all high priced FA pickups...meanwhile the Yankees have 3 contributing farmhands in Cano, Melky and Wang, with Tabata, Hughes, and Duncan waiting in the wings.

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Originally posted by chanman7483 You're going to have to trust me that I didn't look this up - For the better part of the year, Tony Fernandez. I became a fan in 95, as a 12 y/o caught up in the wildcard madness... The thing that irks me about Mets fans is they say "HAH, see? Money really can't buy you a championship, maybe you should develop your farm more like us"... yet Reyes and Wright are the only farm hands contributing, and you're running the likes of Lo Docua, Beltran, Delgado, Pedro, Wagner, and Glavine out there.... all high priced FA pickups...meanwhile the Yankees have 3 contributing farmhands in Cano, Melky and Wang, with Tabata, Hughes, and Duncan waiting in the wings.

really? who said that?

it's really about spending the money wisely whether your payroll is 30 mill or 200 mil. who's getting bang for their buck?

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Originally posted by trunks1022 really? who said that? it's really about spending the money wisely whether your payroll is 30 mill or 200 mil. who's getting bang for their buck?

Coworkers and Orioles fans, ESPECIALLY, UGH.

The thing to remember also is that a lot of the Yankees payroll is tied up in their legacy players - Jeter, Williams, Mariano, Posada... they're all making HUGE money, which is/was a product of A) The market at the time they were signed and B) rewarding them for their play during the dynasty years, when they were under their rookie contracts or were in arbitration. These days the market is weak, so guys like Jeter wouldn't be making 20 mil a year, or Arod wouldn't be making 25 mil a year. You can't really compare the Yankees with any other team, but it's not all a product of their sizeable checkbook.

Bernie Williams is only making 2 million this year.

And, really, it IS the FAs that the money is tied up in. Giambi, Pavano, Mussina, Wright, Sheffield, Abreu... They all make TONS. .

As for the farm system thing, you're saying Wang and Cano. Okay... Before them, who was the last impact player to come from their system? You can't say "All the Mets have is Wright and Reyes" and then mention Cano and Wang as if the Yankees are producing players like the Indians of the mid-90s.

Also, I too could rattle off Mets minor leaguers who may or may not turn out to be anything great.

And... Eric Duncan sucks.

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Shamez214 Bernie Williams is only making 2 million this year. And, really, it IS the FAs that the money is tied up in. Giambi, Pavano, Mussina, Wright, Sheffield, Abreu... They all make TONS. .

I didn't say the Yankees weren't paying out of their ass for their new acquisitions, did I? Read my post again. And Bernie was making a little over 12M before this season.

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As for the farm system thing, you're saying Wang and Cano. Okay... Before them, who was the last impact player to come from their system? You can't say "All the Mets have is Wright and Reyes" and then mention Cano and Wang as if the Yankees are producing players like the Indians of the mid-90s.

Do you really want to go there and make you look like a complete retard? Okay, since you called me out - Derek Jeter, Jorge Posada, Bernie Williams, Mariano Rivera, Andy Pettitte. Impact players who we've also developed in our system but have ben traded are Soriano, Nick Johnson, and Brian Westbrook. And yes I can say all the Mets have developed that have contributed for them up to this point is Wright and Reyes because well... it's true, lol... it's a fact, not my opinion.

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Also, I too could rattle off Mets minor leaguers who may or may not turn out to be anything great.

Do you want a cookie? What is your point? Regarding minor leaguers who may or may not turn out to be good, do you have anyone like Phil Hughes, who posted 138Ks in 116 innings with an ERA a little over 2 in AAA? Oh wait,... you did have Scott Kazmir and traded him for Victor Zambrano. I can see why you're bitter. Not sure if you know this, but having a great minor league career usually is a good indicator of continued success in the majors. Phil Hughes is also only 20. Agreed on Duncan, who will probably only be a role player.

There are a good amoung of Mets fans who I can tolerate, but you sound just like the majority of bitter Yankee hating mets fans that I run into on a daily basis who don't know their shit, esp when they complain about the Yankees.

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Actually... it seems like you're the one that's bitter. I'm just making a few posts on a message board, you're the one jumping down my throat.

Also, Brian Westbrook is the Running Back for the Eagles. I think you meant Jake Westbrook.

My point was that it's been quite a while that the Yankees have prodcued an above average major leaguer. You're making it like the Yankees are a player producing machine.

And yes... I do want a cookie. You rattled off names in a way that seemed like youre were trying to be "cool" 'cause you know the names of the only 3 Yankee minor leaguers that everyone has heard of because the media hypes them. I could say Pelfrey, Humber, Milledge and it would be the same thing as you just did.

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LIVE AND DIE WITH MY YANKEES AND TIMO MAAS BITCHES

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Originally posted by chanman7483 There are a good amoung of Mets fans who I can tolerate, but you sound just like the majority of bitter Yankee hating mets fans that I run into on a daily basis who don't know their shit, esp when they complain about the Yankees.

Hmmm... not really. Actually, I think I "complain" about the Yankees less than any other non-Yankee fan on this board. Care to show me where I posted anything hateful towards the Yankees? Again... it seems like you're a bitter Mets-hating Yankees fan. I don't hate the Yankees at all.

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and so, to feel like that?
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