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| quote: | Originally posted by Orbitus
I guess you're referring to Iraq and Afghanistan?
Maybe the US should have just come out and said it was because of 9-11. However seeing that this is not a conventional war with one clear enemy (or Country)it is difficult to declare war(on a country) and get approval from the UN and public at large. Thus the WMD excuse. It's just politics for those who have a hard time with reality. Remember the Jack Nicholson line : "Because you can't handle the truth".
Bottom line is the 9-11 attack was no different than Pearl Harbour. (Except 911 targeted innocent civilians). How could you not respond to such an attack?? |
Originally the threat was created in Iraq, which we have all later understood was never the case, sure Hussien was a despot, however the same could be said of many countries. At the end of the day it was determined that as a result of 9/11 Iraq was felt to have WMD and Afghanistan was a sesspool of Taliban activity; people who helped a promoted the "events" of 9/11. However the original afghanistan mission was to a certain degree a success. The taliban were rendered either obsolete or they were pushed to the fringes of society. All while the iraq invasion occured, which has, to say the least been far beyond the already low expectations. I refuse to explain exactly why iraq has been such a disaster, if you dont see it then it comes down to a matter of perspective.
When I say "built" on lies, there were never weapons of mass distruction there in the first place, the republican admisitration fabricated them...is that an untrue statement?
With the taliban movement relativley muzzeled at this point...the situation there is made worse by the fact that the war against Islam in iraq, is to say the least agrivating islamic people in eastern islamic nations...and as a result, Islamic militancy is becoming worse and worse in nations that are currently under western occupation ie: Afghanistan and Iraq.
I am not misunderstanding this situation, I am saying that they are interrelated.
Sure this is not a conventional war i agree and we could argue whether it was ever right to take this mission on in the first place, But for me whether or not this is a conventional mission or not, they are failing miserably. They are losing control, america has no alliances, the sunis, shia's (pardon the SP's) and other groups are fighting wars amongst each other while maintaining their communal distrust, hate and agression against the americans.
One of the postings here made a very solid point to the effect that if you join the army, you understand the awful consequences (I may be over simplifying) however that statement says nothing for the fact that the republicans need to acknowledge that they are in a situation that they appear to have lost control, and posible the mission . They have not made that determination and continue to use the soldiers as fodder, and each day another one dies, and for what exactly?
With Canada locked up in this mess, they are fighting the groups, who will forever resist occupation.
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