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miamitranceman
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Registered: Nov 2004
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I agree. I just bought an LG upconverting DVD player and HDMI cable today. It is like night and day compared to yesterday when I was trying out movies off my ps2 (not even prog scan) and rca cables.


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DjConfessions
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Registered: Jun 2005
Location: Jamesfranco, France

people at work are always asking me: Are you allowed to lie an LCD/Plasma TV (still inside box) on its side for the ride home?
The salespersons are always telling me its ok for an LCD TV to lie on its side, but not a plasma, but I take everything they say as bullshit.


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tubby
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the delivery guys on my plasma said never lay it flat. When I reported buzzing from the power unit/fan the repairer laid it flat to change both and says that's how all units are worked on.
so I'm no help, I've only talked to two people about it and they gave conflicting advice. I must say it doens't seem to have suffered for being laid down flat

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miamitranceman
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So I tried out FFXII on my new tv and it looks like crap. I'm reading online that component cables are a must for ps2 on an HD/high quality screen setup. Anyone here using this connection? I'll post tomorrow after I get them.


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jdat
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Registered: Oct 2001
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quote:
Originally posted by miamitranceman
So I tried out FFXII on my new tv and it looks like crap. I'm reading online that component cables are a must for ps2 on an HD/high quality screen setup. Anyone here using this connection? I'll post tomorrow after I get them.


This is what you're making reference to right?



I would say it's probably worth the investement. Better color space than standard composite cables and also than s-video.

You'll also be able to play up to 480P with the ps2 if you get that cable.

This appears to be the highest quality option available for the ps2.

I don't own a ps2 but there's no reason why this shouldn't give you a much better picture.

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quote:
Originally posted by miamitranceman
So I tried out FFXII on my new tv and it looks like crap. I'm reading online that component cables are a must for ps2 on an HD/high quality screen setup. Anyone here using this connection? I'll post tomorrow after I get them.


i have my ps2 connected via S-Video and it looks alright, but yea, component all the way


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miamitranceman
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Originally posted by kid nyce
i have my ps2 connected via S-Video and it looks alright, but yea, component all the way



+1. Hooked up the component cables...it's a completely different picture. I'd say for anyone with a high def set and ps2, it's a must.


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tubby
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not sure about ps quality, but our cable tv box was shipped with composite connections and the picture sucked. A few phone calls ad they delivered the box with component outputs, much better. Still nowhere near HD that we get on free tv, but much better than it was.

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jdat
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quote:
Originally posted by tubby
not sure about ps quality, but our cable tv box was shipped with composite connections and the picture sucked. A few phone calls ad they delivered the box with component outputs, much better. Still nowhere near HD that we get on free tv, but much better than it was.


Composite is the lowest quality you could possibly get.
Component is much better but it is also nowhere near resolutions attainable by HD so I don't think it's reasonable of you to expect similar quality

To make the best use of your HD set with non-HD sources would be to use a component to HDMI scaler/converter.
This hasn't really existed up until now ( and the product hasn't even been released yet! )
Gefen Home Theater Scaler: 449US$
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Yes it isn't cheap but that should make optimal usage of your HD set.
The issue with using an item which doesn't provide native resolutions to your HD set will force the set to operate at non native resolutions resulting in poor pixel distribution etc

With this box you're able to convert Component to HDMI at resolutions of up to 1080P which is sure to be native resolution capable for all current HD sets.

It's also a very cheap scaler that you'll be able to use with any hdmi source.

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Fir3start3r
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quote:
Originally posted by jdat
Composite is the lowest quality you could possibly get.
Component is much better but it is also nowhere near resolutions attainable by HD so I don't think it's reasonable of you to expect similar quality

To make the best use of your HD set with non-HD sources would be to use a component to HDMI scaler/converter.
This hasn't really existed up until now ( and the product hasn't even been released yet! )
Gefen Home Theater Scaler: 449US$
link



Yes it isn't cheap but that should make optimal usage of your HD set.
The issue with using an item which doesn't provide native resolutions to your HD set will force the set to operate at non native resolutions resulting in poor pixel distribution etc

With this box you're able to convert Component to HDMI at resolutions of up to 1080P which is sure to be native resolution capable for all current HD sets.

It's also a very cheap scaler that you'll be able to use with any hdmi source.


Well that seems useless.
You can go buy a decent DVD player with HDMI/Digital Audio output for cheaper than that convertor...


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jdat
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Originally posted by Fir3start3r
Well that seems useless.
You can go buy a decent DVD player with HDMI/Digital Audio output for cheaper than that convertor...


It's obvious that you don't seem to understand the importance of having a scaler for hdmi needs

It's not a cheap product but for what it is it's very cheap. Most scalers and switchers tend to be much pricier.


Buying an HDMI capable player doesn't mean it can output Full HD ( 1080P ).
There are only a handful of models of dvd players that are capable of doing. This will be something of the past pretty soon apparently as the manufacturers of players and HD sets are focusing for the new generation of products to include scalers.

As of right now the cheapest dvd player capable of 1080P upscaling costs around 150~160 US$ and the results with these are far from being the best yet as to reach such a price point there needs to be concessions made with the components used.

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tubby
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Registered: Jul 2002
Location: sydney

quote:
Originally posted by jdat
Composite is the lowest quality you could possibly get.
Component is much better but it is also nowhere near resolutions attainable by HD so I don't think it's reasonable of you to expect similar quality



welcome to life out in the colonies. component is the best out cable tv offers right now, end of next year they'll start broadcasting in HD, right now their SD isn't that great either.
at least most sport is on free to air tv, so that is in decent quality.

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