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Originally posted by PETRAN http://www.discogs.com/release/80002 (released 1996 by phonokol). It seems that astral projection didn't describe their sound as goa. http://www.discogs.com/artist/MFG "Message From God- PSYTRANCE from Israel" http://www.discogs.com/release/41400 So, Hallucinogen are "Goa-trance"? I love how many of you fight for the distinction, but each one of you has a different perception of what goa-trance is and what psy-trance is. It's true you genre-maniacs there is NO distinction. And the "goa" think in the compilations it's because it sounds easier and cool. There are tones of "psychedelic trance" compilations as well in the 90s that feature the exact same artists!Oh and stop comparing "kabalah" to cosma's "full-on"!!!It;s the evolution of israeli psy-trance that became more "full-on" that contributes to slight sound differences rather then that today's stuff is"psy" and the 90s stuff was only goa and we were all wrong back then, when we were experiencing the whole think in it's explosion!(Astral projection and MFG were playing in greece every week back then heh).Cheers.

read the description of each of every release by Astral and MFG on the discogs page. They are all labelled as goa.

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Originally posted by Sykonee Guys! Guys! (and gals if you are lurking this thread) Can't we all just get along!!?? Psychedelic Goa Trance

it still says "style goa trance" ;P

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Yes, it doesn't matter u know...the labelling in discogs is arbitrary, since goa and psy was the same!Read the description in MFG 's page it says psychedelic trance and the description in Hallucinogen's page says goa-trance as well!(and NOT psy as you implied before). Most important, the compilation released by phonokol and compiled by atral projection themselves states "israeli psychedelic trance". This , moreover then discogs, demonstrates that astral perceived themselves (and all the other groups in the compilation, including MFG)as Psy-trance. Have you been in psy-trance back then?I was, and i can assure you with 1000% significance that psy and goa are the saammmeeeeeeeee.LOOOL.

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Originally posted by PETRAN Yes, it doesn't matter u know...the labelling in discogs is arbitrary, since goa and psy was the same!Read the description in MFG 's page it says psychedelic trance and the description in Hallucinogen's page says goa-trance as well!(and NOT psy as you implied before). Most important, the compilation released by phonokol and compiled by atral projection themselves states "israeli psychedelic trance". This , moreover then discogs, demonstrates that astral perceived themselves (and all the other groups in the compilation, including MFG)as Psy-trance. Have you been in psy-trance back then?I was, and i can assure you with 1000% significance that psy and goa are the saammmeeeeeeeee.LOOOL.

read old interviews with Astral Projection, they described their music as goa trance.
and if you still want to nag just go to www.isratrance.com and ask. and we'll see what they have to say.

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wasn't all electronic dance music genres poorly defined in the begining anyway?

i mean "back then" many genres shared the same title like progressive trance and melodic trance was kinda mixed up into one "trance" genre (even sound-wise).
but now the sounds have clearly evolved into something we can tell the differencies between so why not label them differently?

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Originally posted by RebeL9 read old interviews with Astral Projection, they described their music as goa trance. and if you still want to nag just go to www.isratrance.com and ask. and we'll see what they have to say.

Exactly what I was going to say. This discussion is good but its happening on a forum about trance music. Head over to the isratrance.com forums or the psynews.org forums and see what they have to say.

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Get over it.

Now look for the nu/neo-trance. Thats good shit.

Who said Goa is dead? Sensation White is coming there in 2007:

http://www.sensation-white.com/port...emid=62&lang=en

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Originally posted by PETRAN Yes, it doesn't matter u know...the labelling in discogs is arbitrary, since goa and psy was the same!Read the description in MFG 's page it says psychedelic trance and the description in Hallucinogen's page says goa-trance as well!(and NOT psy as you implied before). Most important, the compilation released by phonokol and compiled by atral projection themselves states "israeli psychedelic trance". This , moreover then discogs, demonstrates that astral perceived themselves (and all the other groups in the compilation, including MFG)as Psy-trance. Have you been in psy-trance back then?I was, and i can assure you with 1000% significance that psy and goa are the saammmeeeeeeeee.LOOOL.

You just don't get it. No one has denied goa trance is or can be psychadelic, but psychadelic is not necessarily goa, and nowdays it's almost never goa. Goa trance is a style whose characteristics, according to some, makes it worthy of an own designation. The purpose of expanding the pool of words and designation in language is for people to better understand each other, when i tell someone about a new track and say it's goa trance the person i'm talking to will hopefully understand that it's a tune with big eastern-sounding melodies and other things which he associates to goa trance, and that it's not an euphoric full-on tune.

It's like if i tell someone that i'm eating a banana, then he knows exactly what i'm eating, it's yellow, it has a certain shape, it tastes like a banana. Or i could tell him i'm eating a fruit, then he knows that i'm eating a banana/apple/pear/orange/peach/apricot/melon/watermelon/etc, he knows it looks like a banana/apple/pear/orange/peach/apricot/melon/watermelon/etc, he knows it tastes like a banana/apple/pear/orange/peach/apricot/melon/watermelon/etc. In other words it's fairly useless information.

So if you don't wanna use the words goa trance or think they have no significance, that's fine, but i don't understand why you have to insist on telling others they shouldn't, that it's wrong, etc. We who refer to a certain type of music as "goa trance" do it because we're pleased with how it improves communication regarding the subject.




And i'm sorry Dj_Skez, but i have no job and i do live with my mom. However, i'm no serial killer.

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Originally posted by julien2 Trance music and all its sub-genres is dying/dead. Get over it. Now look for the nu/neo-trance. Thats good shit.

please give examples.
i'm intrested in good shit.

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