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jupiterone
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Registered: Dec 2004
Location: los angeles

quote:
Originally posted by jacklodestar
That's pretty fucking sad that some of you think vinyl is dead. Your right CD's are easier. I guess that's why I hear about so many new wannabe DJ's who sound like complete shit and have absolutely No musical skill whatsoever? The bottem line is vinyl is the domminant media for underground music,....I don't know how it is in your country but in mine it's almost impossible to find good underground tracks on CD's. Also I guess that's why we (Americans) invented turntablism and the Technics world championships are still using turntables instead of CDJ's to compete with huh?


Right, thats why you download tunes digitally. Oh, and how does using vinyl essentially give you musical skill?..

Guess why they're using turntables at turntablism championships, hmm...

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sleepydragon
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Registered: Oct 2003
Location: doncaster, england

quote:
Originally posted by jacklodestar
That's pretty fucking sad that some of you think vinyl is dead. Your right CD's are easier. I guess that's why I hear about so many new wannabe DJ's who sound like complete shit and have absolutely No musical skill whatsoever? The bottem line is vinyl is the domminant media for underground music,....I don't know how it is in your country but in mine it's almost impossible to find good underground tracks on CD's. Also I guess that's why we (Americans) invented turntablism and the Technics world championships are still using turntables instead of CDJ's to compete with huh?


your not making a great introduction here.
Also those championships are sponsored by technics so of course they will be mixing on technics you idiot and they use vinyl for scratching people that scratch probably wont ever give up on vinyl but most people have we all want vinyl to last forever but sadly it wont.


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Old Post Dec-02-2006 19:46  England
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jacklodestar
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Registered: Dec 2006
Location: Sicily, Italy

Yeah ok whatever,...it obviously hasn't occured to you that I'm a turntablist but reguardless everyone is entitled to they're opinions. I don't judge or frown upon others for their opions however my opinion is that it does require more skill to effectively blend and segue using turntables. I've been a member of this site since 2002 by the way,....I had to get a different name because I just spent the last year and a half in Iraq and we couldn't use the internet at my base (Camp Slayer). If you look back at my post you'll see I didn't say oakey sucked in fact he still uses vinyl on some of his CD's i.e. Voyage Into Trance, however I just saw him recently in October or late september (I don't remember exactly what date right now) in Norfolk and noticed he was only using CD's and was playing commercial shit I don't care much for. I actually praised him for his ability to spin considering the fact he has a disability. Your responses let me know you haven't had the oppertunity to meet him on a interpersonal level as I did to know that he's dyslexic and shares some of my opinions including the one I stated reguarding using digital media instead of vinyl.

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sleepydragon
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Yeah ok whatever,...it obviously hasn't occured to you that I'm a turntablist


well of course it didnt occure to me that your a turntablist i dont read your posts and think 'oh god he must be a turntablist' how am i supposed to know.
Your opinion is kind of one sided though towards vinyl if a dj in a club plays on cd and plays an amazing set i dont think many people in the club would give a damn what he used to play the music. People dont look at someone using cd decks and think oh god that looked easy boooooo play some vinyl.


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jacklodestar
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Location: Sicily, Italy

Alright I'll admit I'm biased towards CD's and in favor of vinyl reguardless of the argument. Your also right about the fact that people don't care what type of media you use in a club. That is disappointing to me as my love for vinyl runs deep and sometimes drives me to make an ass of myself in debates. I have seen people boo CD/mp3 DJ's at raves and underground events. What i've seen more so is people who become less interested because the magic of seeing a DJ use vinyl and watching the needle in the groove is gone when you use CD's. I don't go to clubs but maybe once or twice a year and I only go to see my favorite dj's like oakey and others. Therefore I don't keep up with what goes on at clubs so I'm sure you know more than I do about the club standard and how a club crowd reacts. I do however go to raves every week and throw them myself a few times a year so I can speak for what I know about the rave scene in the U.S.

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jupiterone
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Originally posted by sleepydragon
well of course it didnt occure to me that your a turntablist i dont read your posts and think 'oh god he must be a turntablist' how am i supposed to know.
Your opinion is kind of one sided though towards vinyl if a dj in a club plays on cd and plays an amazing set i dont think many people in the club would give a damn what he used to play the music. People dont look at someone using cd decks and think oh good that looked easy boooooo play some vinyl.



I dont think people even know what the hell he does behind there or what a transition is

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jacklodestar
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Some do and some don't,...a lot of people that attend my raves and the raves I've been to are dj's themselves or have dated dj's or just plain respect and understand the art so there are people out there who get it. U.S. ravers are a different breed of party kid and for the most part like to understand whats going on behind the decks.

Old Post Dec-02-2006 21:31  Italy
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sleepydragon
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I dont think people even know what the hell he does behind there or what a transition is


i think thats the problem most people dont even know what a dj does so how can anyone expect them to appreciate a dj using vinyl.


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GoSpeedGo!
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Registered: May 2006
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Vinyl is overrated. Move on.


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sleepydragon
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i wouldnt say over rated but the world has moved on now things are going digital.


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jupiterone
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Half the people that I know, that know I DJ, whenever im doing a radio show or gig they're like "OH CAN I CALL IN? WHATS THE NUMBER?!"...

Pretty damn annoying but hey, we live in a pretty damn ignorant world and as for me, I live in a state infested with crap music and crap people.

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GoSpeedGo!
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quote:
Originally posted by sleepydragon
i wouldnt say over rated but the world has moved on now things are going digital.


Yeah, but just look howīs the guy defending it. Thereīs the needle and all the magic - of course there is some spirit around it and I wonīt deny it, but it has nothing to do with that round black thing that keeps rotating on the deck. Itīs where it all started and itīs quite logical that some people think itīs something that should never be abandoned.


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