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.....but i am sure you would figure that out if you werent jus trying to be a prick. |
Nice, do u call everyone a prick that disagrees or makes a different point to u ?
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so either dont call yourselves pro-lifers or dont contradict your seleves and eat meat and say abortion is wrong....they are very similar....
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How u made that connection is totally beyond me, if there is any connection at all to be made in that, then it should be that people have the freedom of choice.
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and if your going to say humans are more superior and benefit the world better then animals cus we as humans do remarkeble things...well that is total bullshit...we as humans do more harm and destruction to this world then any animal in history....
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Humans are the superior race, FACT ! At least we as Humans have come to realise that we have done damage to this planet and are now working on the whole to recitfy that damage, we have learnt from our mistakes, we have learnt from our science and technology and we have done this in far less time than natural evolution could do for us.
Some Animals are more destructive in thier nature than you can imagine, take locust's as an example and how they can lay waste to acres of farmyard quicker than the most sophisticated machinery could do.
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And when it comes down to it...then end of the world will be do to HUMAN actions...
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I very much doubt that, if anything Human's are now fighting for the survival of this planet with one or two exceptions, in the last 10 years we have banned CFC's from aerosol's, we use unleaded gas, we recycle, we fight against pollution, we are using alternative methoeds of power such as solar energy, we are fighting against things like Whale hunting in the oceans, hunting for sport, we strive to help those countries worse off then the UK or the USA, take Ethiopia, the WORLD pulled together to help those ppl and to bring them back from starvation and total dependence on us so they can now fight and support themselves.
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yes humans are animals...whats your point???? |
No we are most def not animals, see thats what seperates us from the animals is our ability to improove ourselves in a much shorter timespan than evolution for animals will allow, its our ability to be able to correct things and to work out ways of improoveing life quality for everything, animals and humans alike that is a beneifit to this world.
We have with the aid of science and technolgy developed by us expanded life spans, saved countless lives thru medical science, made child birth safer, etc.
If u and i was living just 100 years ago, then half the ppl that u know would not be alive, cos of polluted water, inapproate waste disposal, the lack of knowledge in curing simple diseases, the list is endless.
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To an extant...God's plan originally was for humans to be vegetarians and after he flooded the earth he said one day we will be again..
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1st u say that then u say (btw where is your evidence to support the above ? )
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since most of what is preached by Christians is impossibilities in the scientific world.
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So on one hand you are saying that we should follow god's word and then on the other hand u are saying its impossible, weird . . .
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I always find it funny that God flooded the earth to rid the world of all the evil people and what have you...YET decided to save 2 of every animal...makes you think who God thought was more deserving of life at that time...maybe its because animals cause nowhere near the devastation on this world that people have doen in history and will continue to do till the end of all time... |
And it took a human to save all of those animals, Noah had to build the ark so that those animals could survive, so again human technology was a beneifit not only to humans but also to animals..
Nature is the most destructive force on earth, not humans, and the human race is using its technology to save this world, not destroy it, as i stated above, we as a species have learned that we must do something to save the planet and this is what we are doing, however slowly and however long it takes to correct those mistakes of the past, but cos of our education and learning, we are making the difference.
As for the issue of abortion, there are many many factors to consider, the 2 main ones being, the health of the mother, some women are just not capable of being able to give birth, be it due to high blood pressure, bone weakness in the hips, even the pregnancy itself can be very dangerous to the health of a woman, classic example is an eptopic pregnancy, this is where the egg gets caught in the tubes and if allowd to delvelop there will kill the mother.
Then there is the more sensitive issue of rape, this is an issue i am not going to go into as for the female members of TA this may be just too traumatic, the idea of being violated then having to carry a child concived from that, well use your brain to figure out the rest . . .
in finishing, you seem to have no consideration for ppl's idea's that do not conform to your own preconcived ideas, this is not a debate as you appear neither to be willing to accept that other ppl have a different point of veiw to your own.
By calling ppl names and or swearing at them is not the way to conduct a debate, it merely shows a poor use of language.
It also seems that the majority of the Debates threads are there to bring on the flames, you seem to enjoy provoking ppl into heated arguements on subjects that even the greatest minds of our time have no answer for.
Someone on this thread posted that he was sick of seeing all the religious threads in here, well debates on religion are always, ALWAYS going to bring conflict within ppl, where as the MUSIC we listen to is meant to bring us all together, why create factions and splits in a community of differing races/ religions / belifs that succesfully manage to co exist with each other in the realms of music, there is far too much hate in the world without trying to create more.
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