Don't know about 'civilised' as they effectively lost their jobs, income and immense amounts of property, you could take what you could carry, clothes on your back and basically dumped out in the middle of nowhere in a tarpaper and wooden hut. Even Regan admitted that it was based on hysteria and racial prejudice as a government apology, they didnt bother locking up the ethnic Germans or Italians at the time either and something like 2/3rds of the Japanese where either naturalised or born in the USA.
Even if you get stuck in one for 2-3years, thats a lot of living that could be done and if youre going in as an educated, skilled person its humiliating to have to go pick fruit for a living or chip weeds.

The nasty thing is that these changes sneak in under the moral radar of people over time, they nibble off a bit here, bit there and after a few years the population just doesnt realise how bad it is until the hammer comes down.
And you wake up, neck deep in crap.

You walk up to someone on the street and ask them what their first impression is when you say concentration or internment camp and they think people being executed or worked to death. That's why I said civilized although it is it stretch considering what they had to give up.

I just got done reading a really interesing book that was a collection of interviews of people that had lived in the camps. Many of them seemed almost apoligetic about the whole incident and that it happend like it did as if they felt they were somehow at fault. Only one out of about 50 said they were still upset about it to this day. Everyone else said they just went back to their lives(the vast majority were farmers) and rebuilt everyhting or moved into the legal or political fields to make sure it did happen again.

My whole point for talking about it though was that while this did indeed happen it can not be used as a basis for an argument that it would without question happen again, and that even when it did happen it was nothing like what happend in Europe.

Good Posts shaolin_Z,

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Originally posted by Lilith The nasty thing is that these changes sneak in under the moral radar of people over time, they nibble off a bit here, bit there and after a few years the population just doesnt realise how bad it is until the hammer comes down. And you wake up, neck deep in crap.

you know, before 911, I would of laughed and called your post "crackpot", but now, it is so true. especially when one works for the "man", see things; hear things..... makes a mesican want to move to Canada and live next door to Cyrus.

oh apparently it was a Parody that went VERY WRONG:

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RADIO SPOOF DRAWS SUPPORT FOR NAZI-LIKE TREATMENT OF U.S. MUSLIMS - TOP CAIR says callers' reaction is a 'wake-up call' on Anti-Muslim bigotry (WASHINGTON, D.C., 11/27/06) - A parody of anti-Muslim bigotry on a Washington, D.C., radio station drew support for treating American Muslims in a manner similar to how the Jewish community was targeted in Nazi Germany. SOURCE

Odd though they call this host, THE NEW VOICE OF THE LEFT on his meta tags and yahoo search results. here is the link to the station that has links to the actual show CLICK HERE

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Originally posted by LazFX Good Posts shaolin_Z,

Are you being sarcastic.

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"The Greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge." -Stephen Hawking
"First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me— and there was no one left to speak out for me." -Martin Niemöller

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Originally posted by LazFX oh apparently it was a Parody that went VERY WRONG:

Umm... perhaps you missed this part:

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At the end of the one-hour show, rich with arguments on why visual identification of "the threat in our midst" would alleviate the public's fears, Klein revealed that he had staged a hoax. It drew out reactions that are not uncommon in post-9/11 America. "I can't believe any of you are sick enough to have agreed for one second with anything I said," he told his audience on the AM station 630 WMAL (http://www.wmal.com/), which covers Washington, Northern Virginia and Maryland "For me to suggest to tattoo marks on people's bodies, have them wear armbands, put a crescent moon on their driver's license on their passport or birth certificate is disgusting. It's beyond disgusting. "Because basically what you just did was show me how the German people allowed what happened to the Jews to happen ... We need to separate them, we need to tattoo their arms, we need to make them wear the yellow Star of David, we need to put them in concentration camps, we basically just need to kill them all because they are dangerous."

___________________
"The Greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge." -Stephen Hawking
"First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me— and there was no one left to speak out for me." -Martin Niemöller

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Originally posted by shaolin_Z Are you being sarcastic.

No, I actually like reading your posts, like I told you in person, I like to be well rounded in others views. I know I screw with Cyrus allot so that might make you think twice. but no, I am not being sarcastic

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Originally posted by shaolin_Z Umm... perhaps you missed this part:

thanks, I am a little jittery at the moment, have not had a cig in the past few weeks, actually smoked my last one the weekend of that show we met up at. These patches are making me really stupid.

I finished up all my work tonight in record time!! lol so i am going to listen to this show.

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Originally posted by LazFX No, I actually like reading your posts, like I told you in person, I like to be well rounded in others views.

Thanks.

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Originally posted by LazFX I know I screw with Cyrus allot so that might make you think twice. but no, I am not being sarcastic

You confuse his anger towards the government (US & Israel) for hatred towards the people (which is easy to do considering how he expresses it at times, but only in response to false accusations and misrepresentation of his views). I'm pretty sure if you guys met in real life you'd get along pretty well.

___________________
"The Greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge." -Stephen Hawking
"First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me— and there was no one left to speak out for me." -Martin Niemöller

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Originally posted by shaolin_Z I'm pretty sure if you guys met in real life you'd get along pretty well.

Well with me going to WMC next year, I might bump into a few on here. And you can vouch for me, I am nice guy that loves his drink

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Originally posted by LazFX thanks, I am a little jittery at the moment, have not had a cig in the past few weeks, actually smoked my last one the weekend of that show we met up at. These patches are making me really stupid. I finished up all my work tonight in record time!! lol so i am going to listen to this show.

Next time I'll roll you an entire pack to take home .

___________________
"The Greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge." -Stephen Hawking
"First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me— and there was no one left to speak out for me." -Martin Niemöller

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Originally posted by LazFX you know, before 911, I would of laughed and called your post "crackpot", but now, it is so true. especially when one works for the "man", see things; hear things..... makes a mesican want to move to Canada and live next door to Cyrus.

If you have heard of "land reform" in some places which the western world doesnt have an interest in (no oil) you'd have a fair idea that I'm not a 'crackpot' about governments implementing things for the betterment of the state's security and welfare for the majority of the population.
One day its, just a few musings on the radio about giving back privately owned land too war veterans.
Next month you hear rumours about letters giving you notice they own your house now with an official notice.
Month after that, they give you one.
Month after that, they turn up to turf you out.

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oh apparently it was a Parody that went VERY WRONG:

Personally it went very right in my opinion.