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Originally posted by thoughtlessjex This doesn't make any sense. Some people like to argue about music when they aren't dancing to it, so why don't you just let them to it and get off your own high horse?

Its simple. Theres a difference between arguing about music and then just making outlandish statements like "ferry corsten killed trance" or asking ridculus questions like "is epic trance stupid?". Such shite talking is totally non-sensical and is made to rile people up NOT to have a civilised argument or conversation about music

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Originally posted by gizzymcg Its simple. Theres a difference between arguing about music and then just making outlandish statements like "ferry corsten killed trance". Such a statement is totally non-sensical and is made to rile people up.

It's a rhetorical device, used to make a point. There's a difference.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J It's a rhetorical device, used to make a point. There's a difference.

Maybe im just a "lesser being" than you and the likes of Ishkur as i fail to see the point at all

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles He's okay.

Personally i'm more impressed with Armin and Tiesto and such.But i just don't like it when it's said he killed trance.He's good.Plus it's not dead.

Sorry guys, I didn't want to rile people up. I suppose my title could've been "toned down".

I was just going through the Ishkur's guide and I hit epic trance, and I thought "aha! this is the kind of trance I listen to." But then I read the description and he talks about it like one of the worst sub-genres.

I don't really mind that Ishkur dislikes epic (is there such a thing? its debatable as proven by this thread) and I wasn't about to stop listening to epic trance just because some guy said it sucked. I found this site trying to find more good trance to listen to and I've found some cool new tunes.

My questions have been answered. I appreciate the insight guys

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Originally posted by Surfmorworkless Personally i'm more impressed with Armin and Tiesto and such.But i just don't like it when it's said he killed trance.He's good.Plus it's not dead.

Actually, I find Ferry a lot more original than any of his big Dutch peers. I'll give him credit for that.

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Originally posted by the_transient I've been to about 10 "parties" so far, and the music is usually so loud and poorly EQ'd that all you hear out of trance is the thump-thump of the bass drum. Then it gets quiet because of a breakdown, then back to thump-thump. Listening to trance on your home speakers is about 100x better.

that sounds like a lot of the clubs around here. The funny part is, they're RnB clubs and quiete popular with the RnB crowd. I can't help but laugh, because i can't hear the lyrics when i go in there, so wtf are they trying to dance and sing to?

It's not that much related to poor EQing, it's actually a harmonious blend of a stupid DJ that redlines the mixer, poor acoustics, and over-pumping the sound systems. Acoustics in clubs plays a huge part in this.

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Originally posted by thoughtlessjex So \"kicking Trance downhill\" isn't supposed to have negative connotations?

No. That's what effect it had. Has nothing to do with how good the music itself is. Time to roll the dice.

Epic trance is pop music