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ampburner
progressive trancEaddict



Registered: Oct 2000
Location: Holland

Another thing... choose your tracks wisely. Some tracks just don't fit well together, while otheers ...

Old Post Mar-27-2002 21:26  Netherlands
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dvd
i dont like prog



Registered: Jan 2001
Location: daly city, ca

dang i'm gonna have a hell of a trouble when making a set. most of my stuff is like i dont know weird.

for an angel, 10 in 1, blood is pumpin , eternity.... oh well


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Old Post Mar-28-2002 00:20  United States
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Scorchio
Sorry! We Are Circoloco



Registered: Apr 2001
Location: Lexicon Avenue

quote:
Originally posted by Spin Doctor
You really must heed the advice of the other TA’s who say to learn to mix using one ear. If you’re in a club situation where they have a split or fader cue then you’ll be fine but if you come to one that hasn’t your buggered. However, if your fairly competent at monitoring using one method it shouldn’t take you too long to pick up others. You’re in the best position if you can mix using all three types of monitoring. Remember, practice makes perfect.


Tell me what reasonable club doesnt have a good mixer with a double cue?
I Think every club which respects itself should have one.
And anyway Im going to try and get it, but Its hard because my speakers are shitty and the bass is not so good so I cant really seperate the beats.
And If I will encounter a club which doesnt have the Cue option well then Ill just carry my gear with me and use it...


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Old Post Mar-28-2002 09:29  Israel
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DJ Teknique
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Registered: May 2001
Location: Baltimore, USA

quote:
Originally posted by Eugene
hehe, guys, I agree with you about the BPM counter, and i'm not using it anymore. The ONLY thing I'm using is the green/red/yellow lights that show if the beats match.

don't use that shit either.....use your ear, fuck the lights and BPM, don't be so dependent on that shit and excercise your ear

those lights are not always correct too.....the basic concept is for them to light up when a a drum hits (low frequency basically)....but if your bassline is as strong as the drum then that shit isn't lighting up correctly so fuck it and use ears.....

there is nothing wrong with using split cue...its there for a reason..and its not cheating, u still have to beat match them on your own.


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D-Syde
Liquid dancEaddict



Registered: Mar 2001
Location: Orlando, FL

Ok I have a question for you guys (especially the ones that say they dont have a set eq pattern).

Now before you actually start to mess with the eqs, do you have a plan on what you are going to do? For example...its understood that each song is going to be somewhat different, so do you know or have a plan on how you are going to mess with the eqs even before you bring the song in...or...do you bring the song in and work from there, taking out what you think needs taking out and putting in what you think it sounds like it needs to go in.

Well after typing this Ive realized most peoples answers are going to be the same...How I do it, is I have a basic idea before going in, by listening to the song in my headphones, but a lot of it is improvising while both records are playing.

Im interested in seeing if anyone has it all layed out before they start to mix in the new song (just by listening in your headphones).


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Old Post Mar-28-2002 15:54  United States
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YuVaL
Airwaves



Registered: May 2001
Location: Out There....

when i get my pcv - 275
i will only use it 4 volume matching
which means i will just use it 2 see both tracks are on da same volume.., so my mix wont b fucked


is that cheating?

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Spin Doctor
Supreme tranceaddict



Registered: Jul 2001
Location: Outside Over There

quote:
Originally posted by Scorchio
Tell me what reasonable club doesnt have a good mixer with a double cue?
I Think every club which respects itself should have one.
And anyway Im going to try and get it, but Its hard because my speakers are shitty and the bass is not so good so I cant really seperate the beats.


With the greatest of respect mate the clubs that your going to spin in first won’t have the top of the range equipment. There going to have equipment that has been beaten up through over and miss-use and isn’t top of the range. Trust me, I know from experience. A few months ago I was in a DJ Battle Competition in my local town. Did the mixer have split cue? Hell No! Did the last place I DJ'ed in have a Split Cue? No it didn't!


quote:
Originally posted by Scorchio
And If I will encounter a club which doesnt have the Cue option well then Ill just carry my gear with me and use it...


And as for this I don’t know what it’s like in your country but you really couldn’t get away with uprooting their system to plonk in your mixer over here in the UK. The Club manager would blow a fuse.

Old Post Mar-28-2002 16:22  United Kingdom
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DJ TranceFormer
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Registered: Jan 2002
Location: Alexandria, VA

Yup, you can't bring your own shit to a club here, in US also.


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Scorchio
Sorry! We Are Circoloco



Registered: Apr 2001
Location: Lexicon Avenue

Hmmm well due to these facts I'm going to try and practice more on it.


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Old Post Mar-28-2002 19:05  Israel
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Eugene
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Registered: May 2001
Location: Maryland USA
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quote:
Originally posted by DJ Teknique
those lights are not always correct too.....the basic concept is for them to light up when a a drum hits (low frequency basically)....but if your bassline is as strong as the drum then that shit isn't lighting up correctly so fuck it and use ears.....

you're right!
Sometimes when I'm mixing, the beats are matched but the lights are still red for a few secs... that messes me up

About EQ'ing with your headphones, is it just me or does playing with EQ's have absolutely no effect on what's heard in your headphones? Or am I wrong, I just can't hear it?


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Old Post Mar-28-2002 20:03  Russia
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djsblaha
Junior tranceaddict



Registered: Jul 2001
Location: ohio

quote:
About EQ'ing with your headphones, is it just me or does playing with EQ's have absolutely no effect on what's heard in your headphones? Or am I wrong, I just can't hear it?


this is because when you just use the channel PFL you don't hear the output, which has gone through the eq's, you are hearing whats going into the mixer from the record, it's the same if you have a digital effects processor in it, you won't hear the effects in your headphones without a split cue.
As far as being fucked without the split cue goes, Scorchio, i don't think it'll be THAT big of a problem, the beats will be matched whether you just use the channel pfl's, or the split cue, you will have to take off the headphones to hear the actual mix though when you fade or whatever. you said your speakers suck, and i don't know if you've ever played on a big system, but the real problem i've had to deal with when mixing in the phones is the speakers playing out won't be perfectly sync'd with your headphones, and that takes some getting used to. about the pcv 275, i haven't seen it yet and i'm about to upgrade from a pmc 17a, what all makes it better than the 175?

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bassaholix
TrancEateer



Registered: Sep 2001
Location: Sydney, Australia
Cool well im no expert...

Ive being an amateur a.k.a Bedroom Banger...

but what i tend to do is try to memorize the songs...

and also this helps because the way i mix is by remembering sequences.. like when there are lows in a song, and also like hi hats and claps and build up's, this helps me mix because i know what something is going to sound like when ie MIXED together...

Work at it.. and practice.. im still doing it...

Old Post Mar-29-2002 09:22  Australia
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