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Originally posted by erdega and you hate intelligent and informed people, is that so? Anyway I am a Serbian Canadian and I am white as anyone but of course this background includes bias against American imperialism twice but Americans and Brits give us so much material even the most ardent Fox watchers are beginning to see things. The recent complete plunge for war on Iraq is a good indicator that most people are starting to wake up albeit too late because that war is out of control and only because of troops casualties .

finally comes out of his shell. keep it up.

yeah, no one likes seeing American soldiers die trying to protect Iraqis at a supermarket i'll give you that. if you do, your one sick f**ker.

anyway, Iraq lives. long live Iraq.

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Originally posted by Q5echo finally comes out of his shell. keep it up. yeah, no one likes seeing American soldiers die trying to protect Iraqis at a supermarket i'll give you that. if you do, your one sick f**ker. anyway, Iraq lives. long live Iraq.

No, he finally has to mention his enthicity because of your false and lousy accusations .

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"First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me— and there was no one left to speak out for me." -Martin Niemöller

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Originally posted by shaolin_Z No, he finally has to mention his enthicity because of your false and lousy accusations .

good. do you think that makes him more or less credible when he posts shit like "Anglo American dogs"

don't answer that, you're an idiot.

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Originally posted by Q5echo good. do you think that makes him more or less credible when he posts shit like "Anglo American dogs" don't answer that, you're an idiot.

That's pretty funny coming from you.

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"The Greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge." -Stephen Hawking
"First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me— and there was no one left to speak out for me." -Martin Niemöller

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Originally posted by shaolin_Z That's pretty funny coming from you.

right, but is he more, or less credible?

I listen to arguments, don't really focus on or care the person it's coming from really. The source has absolutely nothing to do with the quality/validity of the argument. Argumentum ad hominems don't convince me. And alot of people here seem to resort to that instead of actually addressing the argument.

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"The Greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge." -Stephen Hawking
"First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me— and there was no one left to speak out for me." -Martin Niemöller

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Originally posted by Q5echo finally comes out of his shell. keep it up. yeah, no one likes seeing American soldiers die trying to protect Iraqis at a supermarket i'll give you that. if you do, your one sick f**ker. anyway, Iraq lives. long live Iraq.

Tell me do you find it sick of American generals to be celebrating murder of civilians or trying to misrepresent it? Do you find it sick to have journalists like Bill O'Reilly who has a top show on television and Thomas Friedman the main foreign editor of NYT to be constantly dehumanizing civilians in foreign lands and inciting their murder for a national megalomania ?


Americans are occupiers and thus solely responsible for safety of people and property. There wasn't any comparable violence before Americans came thus Iraqis have full right to kill american soldiers.

Only as gross as the decades of war between the Albanians and Serbians that had innumerable attrocities on both sides and seeing as youre in Canada its convenient to ignore your own cultural history of similar activity in liu of recent events.

^^ And your point is?

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"The Greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge." -Stephen Hawking
"First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me— and there was no one left to speak out for me." -Martin Niemöller

Its sometimes a bit hard to take any kind of moral high ground when youre as dirty as the rest, so perhaps try being a bit more objective perhaps and keep the personal hatreds out of it?

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Originally posted by shaolin_Z don't really focus on or care the person it's coming from really.

while i want to say thats bullshit, i'll have to take your word for it.

i will say this, you used to agree with some of the shit i posted but you've somehow come to the conclusion that American soldiers are murderers and Bush kills Arabs for oil which is completely irrational and devoid of any careful thought on a global scale, but as long as people keep telling you that it "doesn't matter who it's coming from".


the source has everything to do with the validity of any argument being argued by the source.

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Originally posted by Q5echo while i want to say thats bullshit, i'll have to take your word for it.

You don't have to lol .

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Originally posted by Q5echo the source has everything to do with the validity of any argument being argued by the source.

No it doesn't. The argument's the same no matter who makes it.

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"The Greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge." -Stephen Hawking
"First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me— and there was no one left to speak out for me." -Martin Niemöller