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Originally posted by shaolin_Z you fucking cocksucker. hypocritical fuck.

That he is.

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This country was created on the belief that imperialism was a pretty nasty thing to get tangled up in, and that instead of following that path we should be an example for others to follow. Now we are without question the most imperialistic nation in the world, and WWII really has a lot to do with why that happend. I honestly believe the world would be a much different place had FRD lived long enough to take care of the post war foreign relations instead of Truman.

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Originally posted by shaolin_Z Shut the hell up you fucking cocksucker. I didn't buy into bullshit propaganda about WMDs that didn't exist and support a war of agression. You're the one who's paranoid you hypocritical fuck.

Very mature and intellectual.

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Originally posted by DevilDogUSMC Very mature and intellectual.

Indeed.

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Originally posted by DevilDogUSMC Very mature and intellectual.

lol and how would you out of all the people would know about being mature and intellectual?

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Originally posted by hardcore trancer shall I start diggin for some of Bush's crimes? what made Saddam so special compare to other dictators around the world?why did he get the honour of getting killed?

He got the honor because he was easy to push around. And I seriously doubt the Iranians will be as receptive to Bush's agression as Saddam was.

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Originally posted by Fir3start3r >>Source<< And thats just the stuff we KNOW and not including his two hell spawn that God knows what they did to woman and everyone else. I'm sure the Iraqi people have tons of other horror stories. Go stick you head back in the sand, the world is fine as long as the States don't have anything to do with it...

If i am correct the invasion was not due to even ONE of the crimes listed there. If i am also correct plenty of you in the pro-war camp use the apologetic 'because wrong was made in the past doesn't mean we can't try and fix it in the future'. After all, the states have done many a blunder in the past yet you who put said country on a pedestal have an inclination to obviate the past without any attempts at reimbursement to those who you have wronged, and keep blundering on like a rabid elephant . But those matters apart, your post illustrates past events, in a nutshell let us know how the world is safer now after the invasion. We don't need a quick lesson in history, or a short of list of fiascoes, we want to know how the world is safer NOW that Saddamn is not at the head of Iraq anymore. Last time i checked your own 'intelligence' organisms were saying the exact opposite!

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Orbax At that point you kind of crossed the rubicon and you might as well lay siege to Rome

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Originally posted by hardcore trancer lol and how would you out of all the people would know about being mature and intellectual?

Not you! Thats for sure

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Originally posted by venomX If i am correct the invasion was not due to even ONE of the crimes listed there. If i am also correct plenty of you in the pro-war camp use the apologetic 'because wrong was made in the past doesn't mean we can't try and fix it in the future'. After all, the states have done many a blunder in the past yet you who put said country on a pedestal have an inclination to obviate the past without any attempts at reimbursement to those who you have wronged, and keep blundering on like a rabid elephant . But those matters apart, your post illustrates past events, in a nutshell let us know how the world is safer now after the invasion. We don't need a quick lesson in history, or a short of list of fiascoes, we want to know how the world is safer NOW that Saddamn is not at the head of Iraq anymore. Last time i checked your own 'intelligence' organisms were saying the exact opposite!

Would you say the same about the effort to capture
Milosevic? That using his past is not good enough
but they must answer how the world would be safer
without him?

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Originally posted by DevilDogUSMC Would you say the same about the effort to capture Milosevic? That using his past is not good enough but they must answer how the world would be safer without him?

Although related it is not the same situation, the US did not invade his country in order to capture him. The US did not destroy the lives of thousands and crippled the ability of that piece of land to be a nation severely. The US did not circumvent the will of most of the world, and lie and deceive in order to bring Milosevic to justice. Due to all that the US didn't do in the Milosevic case there was not the chaos that is now present in Iraq. It is also worthy to note that Milosevic was not in a volatile region were sectarianism is high, and the risk of war(s) is so high. What the US did is akin to trying to do neurosurgery with a butcher's knife. So although i understand the correlations the comparison is not a valid one. Did Saddamn need to be removed? Yes. Was the method the mos appropriate one? Hell no.

Now that I've answered your questions maybe you could address my post instead of going off on a tangent.

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Orbax At that point you kind of crossed the rubicon and you might as well lay siege to Rome

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Originally posted by venomX It is also worthy to note that Milosevic was not in a volatile region were sectarianism is high, and the risk of war(s) is so high.