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stren
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damn that Mclaren is looking sexy

Go BMW go Kubica!

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noikeee
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Jerez testing this week:

Tuesday 6th February 2007:

code:Pos  Driver        Team                      Time     Laps
 1.  de la Rosa    McLaren-Mercedes     (B)  1:20.001  108  
 2.  Wurz          Williams-Toyota      (B)  1:20.036   72  
 3.  Kubica        BMW-Sauber           (B)  1:20.159   46  
 4.  Hamilton      McLaren-Mercedes     (B)  1:20.233  111  
 5.  Raikkonen     Ferrari              (B)  1:20.245   86  
 6.  R.Schumacher  Toyota               (B)  1:20.254   55  
 7.  Button        Honda                (B)  1:20.371   99  
 8.  Montagny      Toyota               (B)  1:20.409   46  
 9.  Rosberg       Williams-Toyota      (B)  1:20.525   62  
10.  Badoer        Ferrari              (B)  1:20.666   62  
11.  Vettel        BMW-Sauber           (B)  1:20.715   51  
12.  Coulthard     Red Bull-Renault     (B)  1:21.021   48  
13.  Piquet        Renault              (B)  1:21.264  117  
14.  Zonta         Renault              (B)  1:21.392   67  
15.  Webber        Red Bull-Renault     (B)  1:21.858   27  
16.  Klien         Honda                (B)  1:22.083   35

Wednesday 7th February 2007:

code:Pos  Driver        Team                      Time      Laps
 1.  Massa         Ferrari              (B)  1:19.746   46
 2.  Hamilton      McLaren-Mercedes     (B)  1:19.821  109
 3.  Kubica        BMW-Sauber           (B)  1:19.839   96
 4.  Alonso        McLaren-Mercedes     (B)  1:20.046  101
 5.  Raikkonen     Ferrari              (B)  1:20.068   46
 6.  Piquet        Renault              (B)  1:20.070   76
 7.  Wurz          Williams-Toyota      (B)  1:20.132   78
 8.  Rosberg       Williams-Toyota      (B)  1:20.143   66
 9.  R.Schumacher  Toyota               (B)  1:20.604   59
10.  Webber        Red Bull-Renault     (B)  1:20.629   36
11.  Coulthard     Red Bull-Renault     (B)  1:20.702   70
12.  Heidfeld      BMW-Sauber           (B)  1:20.710   80
13.  Button        Honda                (B)  1:20.751  100
14.  Zonta         Renault              (B)  1:20.767   86
15.  Trulli        Toyota               (B)  1:20.898   80
16.  Andretti      Honda                (B)  1:22.151   74

Thursday 8th February 2007:

code:Pos  Driver        Team                      Time     Laps
 1.  Heidfeld      BMW-Sauber           (B)  1:29.486   35
 2.  Wurz          Williams-Toyota      (B)  1:30.051   69
 3.  Glock         BMW-Sauber           (B)  1:30.213   27
 4.  Raikkonen     Ferrari              (B)  1:30.628   89
 5.  Barrichello   Honda                (B)  1:30.684   64
 6.  Rosberg       Williams-Toyota      (B)  1:30.684   47
 7.  Massa         Ferrari              (B)  1:30.746   44
 8.  Trulli        Toyota               (B)  1:30.981   89
 9.  Montagny      Toyota               (B)  1:31.027   75
10.  Coulthard     Red Bull-Renault     (B)  1:31.166   65
11.  Webber        Red Bull-Renault     (B)  1:31.405   68
12.  de la Rosa    McLaren-Mercedes     (B)  1:31.479   71
13.  Alonso        McLaren-Mercedes     (B)  1:31.573    9
14.  Andretti      Honda                (B)  1:32.387   62
15.  Zonta         Renault              (B)  No time     2
16.  Piquet        Renault              (B)  No time     3

Things to notice:
- BMW is flying. Massa has said BMW is the "fastest car right now over long stints", and Alonso said BMW are going to be the "surprise of the season". Thursday times are misleading though, since it was a variable weather conditions session.
- Mac still strong, but Ferrari looked closer this week, if not on par. Alonso claimed Ferrari was slightly faster than Mac over long stints.
- Renault quite low profile this week, I believe they weren't pushing for top laptimes. Hiding their pace.
- Williams surprisingly strong, lets see how they keep going. They *might be* the 5th best car there, behind Mac, BMW, Ferrari and Ren.
- Honda and Red Bull still very disappointing.
- Next week testing is at Barcelona - a circuit very dependant on aero, where testing times could be a bit more meaningful.

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quote:
Originally posted by The_G0dfather
You just cant start cheering all of a sudden for a man who was a rival the years before (Raikkonen) although i have to admit that i still consider him as one of the best drivers from the pack. Curious to see what he's capable of now that he'll finally have -hopefully- a reliable car under him.

Nice thread, again

I've been cheering for Kimi since his Sauber debut, and I have just been waiting for him to get out of Mclaren. So what happens? He leaves and they suddenly find pace and reliability, imagine that. Why is that Ron Dennis could not find the pace for his Finish golden boy?

I'm a huge Ferrari fan, and a huge Kimi fan, and I hope I can finally see him win races. I'm amazed that he never flipped out over at Mclaren.

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Trance Nutter
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Registered: Aug 2002
Location: Adelaide, Australia

New Honda livery
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quote:
Originally posted by paranoik0
Things to notice:
- BMW is flying. Massa has said BMW is the "fastest car right now over long stints", and Alonso said BMW are going to be the "surprise of the season". Thursday times are misleading though, since it was a variable weather conditions session.

Ya DEFINITELY the biggest news is BMW's pace...
And i'm still really interested to see how well Kubica'll do in this car over a full season

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Quethas
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It's good thing for Kubica if BMW really is fast. For young driver success would be very good thing. Also Heidfeld could actually get good car first time ever.

But still I guess Renault, Ferrari and McLaren are top3 when season begins.

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noikeee
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Original post updated.

Biggest news of the couple past weeks:

- The Honda livery officially announced today. Wtf, it's absolutely horrendous.

- Liuzzi confirmed at Toro Rosso, then Scott Speed. Such a big delay and speculation, then they actually stick with the duo of drivers they had, weird. Monteiro is out of F1 - not that I cared a lot about him, but always nice to have someone from Portugal there. Our hopes are on Filipe Albuquerque now (lower FRenault champion last season) and Álvaro Parente (british F3 champion 2 years ago, now on A1GP, his career seems going downhill unfortunately due to lack of sponsors, i rate him as damn fast).

As for winter testing, lots of things happening:

Barcelona, 12 February

code:Pos  Driver        Team                      Time      Laps
 1.  de la Rosa    McLaren-Mercedes     (B)  1:22.634   76
 2.  Kubica        BMW-Sauber           (B)  1:22.635   60
 3.  Alonso        McLaren-Mercedes     (B)  1:22.726   56
 4.  Wurz          Williams-Toyota      (B)  1:23.037   44
 5.  Massa         Ferrari              (B)  1:23.077   29
 6.  Raikkonen     Ferrari              (B)  1:23.215   25
 7.  Trulli        Toyota               (B)  1:23.239   74
 8.  Kovalainen    Renault              (B)  1:23.491   55
 9.  Rosberg       Williams-Toyota      (B)  1:23.602   78
10.  Glock         BMW-Sauber           (B)  1:23.653   61
11.  Fisichella    Renault              (B)  1:23.869   79
12.  Montagny      Toyota               (B)  1:24.015   64
13.  Klien         Honda                (B)  1:24.227   51
14.  Coulthard     Red Bull-Renault     (B)  1:24.291   80
15.  Webber        Red Bull-Renault     (B)  1:24.531   83
16.  Davidson      Super Aguri-Honda    (B)  1:24.574   66
17.  Barrichello   Honda                (B)  1:24.934   24
18.  Sutil         Spyker-Ferrari       (B)  1:25.581   83

Barcelona, 13 February

code:Pos  Driver        Team                      Time      Laps
 1.  Massa         Ferrari              (B)  1:21.181  107
 2.  Raikkonen     Ferrari              (B)  1:21.719  154
 3.  Kovalainen    Renault              (B)  1:21.819   99
 4.  Alonso        McLaren-Mercedes     (B)  1:21.901   63
 5.  Fisichella    Renault              (B)  1:21.997  129
 6.  Hamilton      McLaren-Mercedes     (B)  1:22.078  118
 7.  Kubica        BMW-Sauber           (B)  1:22.100   56
 8.  Trulli        Toyota               (B)  1:22.227   96
 9.  Rosberg       Williams-Toyota      (B)  1:22.249   10
10.  Wurz          Williams-Toyota      (B)  1:22.288   55
11.  Montagny      Toyota               (B)  1:22.476   96
12.  Heidfeld      BMW-Sauber           (B)  1:22.618   92
13.  Barrichello   Honda                (B)  1:22.669   85
14.  Button        Honda                (B)  1:22.816   91
15.  Webber        Red Bull-Renault     (B)  1:22.916   83
16.  Coulthard     Red Bull-Renault     (B)  1:23.322   50
17.  Davidson      Super Aguri-Honda    (B)  1:23.969   97
18.  Albers        Spyker-Ferrari       (B)  1:24.425  108

Barcelona, 14 February

code:Pos  Driver        Team                      Time     Laps
 1.  Coulthard     Red Bull-Renault     (B)  1:21.855  112
 2.  Heidfeld      BMW-Sauber           (B)  1:21.958   96
 3.  Massa         Ferrari              (B)  1:21.964   92
 4.  Alonso        McLaren-Mercedes     (B)  1:22.103  114
 5.  Rosberg       Williams-Toyota      (B)  1:22.280   86
 6.  Hamilton      McLaren-Mercedes     (B)  1:22.292  125
 7.  Raikkonen     Ferrari              (B)  1:22.369   45
 8.  Montagny      Toyota               (B)  1:22.446  107
 9.  Fisichella    Renault              (B)  1:22.758   90
10.  Kovalainen    Renault              (B)  1:22.783   56
11.  Webber        Red Bull-Renault     (B)  1:22.834   61
12.  Button        Honda                (B)  1:23.061   91
13.  Barrichello   Honda                (B)  1:23.257   39
14.  Wurz          Williams-Toyota      (B)  1:23.275   39
15.  Vettel        BMW-Sauber           (B)  1:23.569   56
16.  R.Schumacher  Toyota               (B)  1:23.789   82
17.  Albers        Spyker-Ferrari       (B)  1:23.947   87
18.  Sato          Super Aguri-Honda    (B)  1:24.568  123
19.  Liuzzi        Toro Rosso-Ferrari   (B)  1:26.822   30

Valencia, 19 February

code:Pos  Driver        Team                      Time      Laps
 1.  Wurz          Williams-Toyota      (B)  1:11.600   54
 2.  Nakajima      Williams-Toyota      (B)  1:12.950  113
 3.  van der Garde Spyker-Ferrari       (B)  1:13.700   86
 4.  Sutil         Spyker-Ferrari       (B)  1:15.380   10
 5.  Valles        Spyker-Ferrari       (B)  1:15.637   42

Valencia, 20 February

code:Pos  Driver        Team                      Time      Laps
 1.  Wurz          Williams-Toyota      (B)  1.11.614    85
 2.  Rosberg       Williams-Toyota      (B)  1.11.893    90
 3.  Albers        Spyker-Ferrari       (B)  1.13.504    33
 4.  Sutil         Spyker-Ferrari       (B)  1.13.678   128
 5.  Fauzy         Spyker-Ferrari       (B)  1.14.499    75

Valencia, 21 February

code:Pos  Driver        Team                      Time      Laps
 1.  Rosberg       Williams-Toyota      (B)  1:11.919   97
 2.  Sutil         Spyker-Ferrari       (B)  1:12.492   47
 3.  Albers        Spyker-Ferrari       (B)  1:13.092  115
 4.  Karthikeyan   Williams-Toyota      (B)  1:14.166   59

Bahrain, 22 February

code:Pos  Driver        Team                      Time      Laps
 1.  Massa         Ferrari              (B)  1:31.766   86
 2.  Raikkonen     Ferrari              (B)  1:31.901   47
 3.  Button        Honda                (B)  1:32.099   83
 4.  Hamilton      McLaren-Mercedes     (B)  1:32.182   83
 5.  Barrichello   Honda                (B)  1:32.570  101
 6.  de la Rosa    McLaren-Mercedes     (B)  1:32.621   47
 7.  Vettel        BMW-Sauber           (B)  1:32.652  104
 8.  Trulli        Toyota               (B)  1:32.787   33
 9.  Heidfeld      BMW-Sauber           (B)  1:32.810   49
10.  Davidson      Super Aguri-Honda    (B)  1:32.996   76
11.  Kovalainen    Renault              (B)  1:33.139  113
12.  Piquet        Renault              (B)  1:33.816   92
13.  Webber        Red Bull-Renault     (B)  1:34.077   27
14.  Coulthard     Red Bull-Renault     (B)  1:34.595   31
15.  R.Schumacher  Toyota               (B)  1:35.265   35
16.  Liuzzi        Toro Rosso-Ferrari   (B)  1:36.345   25

Bahrain, 23 February

code:Pos  Driver        Team                      Time     Laps
 1.  Heidfeld      BMW-Sauber           (B)  1:30.469  103
 2.  Alonso        McLaren-Mercedes     (B)  1:31.225   64
 3.  Button        Honda                (B)  1:31.807  107
 4.  Hamilton      McLaren-Mercedes     (B)  1:31.934   87
 5.  Kubica        BMW-Sauber           (B)  1:32.220  100
 6.  Raikkonen     Ferrari              (B)  1:32.240   67
 7.  Piquet        Renault              (B)  1:32.539   82
 8.  Massa         Ferrari              (B)  1:32.584   68
 9.  Barrichello   Honda                (B)  1:32.614   63
10.  Kovalainen    Renault              (B)  1:32.973   67
11.  Webber        Red Bull-Renault     (B)  1:33.139   65
12.  Trulli        Toyota               (B)  1:33.155   90
13.  Davidson      Super Aguri-Honda    (B)  1:33.248  108
14.  Coulthard     Red Bull-Renault     (B)  1:33.930   42
15.  Liuzzi        Toro Rosso-Ferrari   (B)  1:34.187   24
16.  R.Schumacher  Toyota               (B)  1:34.464   50

Bahrain, 24 Feburary

code:Pos  Driver       Team                    Time       Laps
 1.  Alonso       McLaren-Mercedes   (B)  1:30.994    73
 2.  Hamilton     McLaren-Mercedes   (B)  1:31.094    53
 3.  Massa        Ferrari            (B)  1:31.718    52
 4.  Raikkonen    Ferrari            (B)  1:31.867   100
 5.  Kovalainen   Renault            (B)  1:32.032    86
 6.  Barrichello  Honda              (B)  1:32.115   129
 7.  Button       Honda              (B)  1:32.137    78
 8.  Coulthard    Red Bull-Renault   (B)  1:32.220    73
 9.  Piquet       Renault            (B)  1:32.334   102
10.  Heidfeld     BMW Sauber         (B)  1:32.451    65
11.  Kubica       BMW Sauber         (B)  1:32.475    95
12.  Davidson     Super Aguri-Honda  (B)  1:32.553   126
13.  Montagny     Toyota             (B)  1:32.917   110
14.  Webber       Red Bull-Renault   (B)  1:33.034    73
15.  Trulli       Toyota             (B)  1:33.062   104
16.  Speed        Toro Rosso-Ferrari (B)  1:33.255    60

Things to notice:

- Ferrari, McLaren and BMW definitely still look like the 3 most impressive cars so far. There have been lots of diverging opinions from so called "experts" on which of these teams is actually stronger. Rumour is that Ferrari is yet to run their final aero package while McLaren has already done so, therefore I'd expect Ferrari to get a further advantage next week.

- Honda have looked much better in Bahrain than in Spain, maybe they aren't doomed after all. Button said he thinks they're behind Ferrari and McLaren, but ahead of Renault.

- Speaking of Renault, things haven't looked very bright lately in the timetables, yet many still believe they aren't showing their true pace. It seems unlikely they'll suddenly show they're still an absolute top team again though. Kovalainen made some negative statements to the press.

- Red Bull did a wonder lap with Coulthard the 14th, but have been shockingly shit every other day. The consensus is that they're fucked.

- Same for Toyota. Trulli flat out said the team is lacking both speed and reliability, a little bit of everything.

- Williams missed the Bahrain test last week, and went for Valencia instead, therefore they haven't been measured against the top teams for a while.

- Massa has been almost every day faster than Raikkonen, which is a surprise, but testing and GP weekend racing are two very different things.

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Bahrain, 27 February

code:Pos  Driver        Team                    Time     Laps
 1.  Massa         Ferrari            (B)  1:31.260  102
 2.  Raikkonen     Ferrari            (B)  1:31.590   95
 3.  Alonso        McLaren-Mercedes   (B)  1:31.851   96
 4.  Kubica        BMW Sauber         (B)  1:32.108   74
 5.  Hamilton      McLaren-Mercedes   (B)  1:32.193   55
 6.  Fisichella    Renault            (B)  1:32.556   82
 7.  Kovalainen    Renault            (B)  1:32.880   19
 8.  Montagny      Toyota             (B)  1:32.999   37
 9.  Trulli        Toyota             (B)  1:33.150   64
10.  Vettel        BMW Sauber         (B)  1:33.219   34
11.  Klien         Honda              (B)  1:33.378   90
12.  Coulthard     Red Bull-Renault   (B)  1:33.526   69
13.  Webber        Red Bull-Renault   (B)  1:33.642   74
14.  Rossiter      Honda              (B)  1:33.697   78
15.  Sato          Super Aguri-Honda  (B)  1:33.813   75
16.  R.Schumacher  Toyota             (B)  1:34.030   36
17.  Speed         Toro Rosso-Ferrari (B)  1:34.137   44

As expected, Ferrari goes a little bit further. It's only another day of testing, but there are some indications they are indeed ahead of other teams - for example the official Renault blog classifying Ferrari's pace as "extremely impressive"!

Although this isn't directly due to the new aero package - Raikkonen was the one who tested it today, yet did a slower top laptime than Massa.

Btw, Kovalainen had a massive crash today, escaped unhurt:

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Ouch! That's a nasty shunt.

Good for Kubica showing great testing pace. BMW is concerned about reliability though in a few articles I read on www.autosport.com today. hopefully they get that sorted before the season.

That Honda livery looks like ass. Good on them for trying to put the environment into the public eye in whatever way they can though. Still looks like ass. With the departure of Lucky Strike, I don't think they found a title sponsor, which resulted in this new look.

I wonder if their non-fireproof team gear will be made of hemp? Damn hippies!!!

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Ferrari looking good

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Ferrari looking good

...and again:

Bahrain, 28 February

code:Pos  Driver        Team                    Time     Laps
 1.  Massa         Ferrari            (B)  1:30.640  100
 2.  Hamilton      McLaren-Mercedes   (B)  1:31.178   55
 3.  Raikkonen     Ferrari            (B)  1:31.490   94
 4.  Fisichella    Renault            (B)  1:31.967  109
 5.  de la Rosa    McLaren-Mercedes   (B)  1:31.971   52
 6.  Kovalainen    Renault            (B)  1:32.068   30
 7.  Heidfeld      BMW Sauber         (B)  1:32.264   73
 8.  Button        Honda              (B)  1:32.293   73
 9.  Liuzzi        Toro Rosso-Ferrari (B)  1:32.359   47
10.  Kubica        BMW Sauber         (B)  1:32.648   54
11.  Barrichello   Honda              (B)  1:32.650   61
12.  Sato          Super Aguri-Honda  (B)  1:32.837  100
13.  R.Schumacher  Toyota             (B)  1:33.054   85
14.  Coulthard     Red Bull-Renault   (B)  1:33.146   52
15.  Webber        Red Bull-Renault   (B)  1:33.238   53
16.  Trulli        Toyota             (B)  1:33.384   33

Renault looking a little bit better today. Meanwhile, Williams keeps on thrashing Spyker everyday at Barcelona (hardly surprising):

Barcelona, 27 February

code:Pos  Driver         Team                      Time     Laps
 1.  Rosberg        Williams-Toyota      (B)  1:21.624  105
 2.  Wurz           Williams-Toyota      (B)  1:22.492   81
 3.  Albers         Spyker-Ferrari       (B)  1:23.096   67
 4.  Sutil          Spyker-Ferrari       (B)  1:23.183   49
 5.  Fauzy          Spyker-Ferrari       (B)  1:24.358   86
 6.  van der Garde  Spyker-Ferrari       (B)  1:33.864    4

Barcelona, 28 February

code:Pos  Driver         Team                      Time     Laps
 1.  Rosberg        Williams-Toyota      (B)  1:21.231  102
 2.  Wurz           Williams-Toyota      (B)  1:21.328  124
 3.  Albers         Spyker-Ferrari       (B)  1:23.069  105
 4.  Sutil          Spyker-Ferrari       (B)  1:23.124  109

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