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shaolin_Z
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Yeah, that's true to an extent and pretty messed up. Although, the US' support for the Saudi monarch/regime has tons of implications the goverment and intelligence agencies are both well aware of. The source of virtually all militant extremist groups find their ideological roots and to a largfe degree, their funding, in Wahhabism, and are also more often than not, just plain old Wahhabi. This isn't exactly a secret. The US is well aware of this. And they're also well aware of the Saudi monarchs unfettering support for Wahhabism as it's a necessary tool for the monarch to maintain power and status quo via imposing their perverted ideology to supress uprisings and for social control; essentialy to keep the masses in check. This ofcourse helps the US to maintain status quo subservient totalitarian regimes freindly to US 'interests.' With such an obvious connection between the main actors and predictable consequences of this interplay, it's more than fair to say that the US essentially supports radical extremism in the Middle East to serve it's own interests. It really couldn't exist or have any where near the influence it does without it, and that's pretty much a fact since Wahhabism didn't exist before that and neigther did any of the fanatical militant factions derivative from it, including Al-CIAeda and the Taliban.


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Magnetonium
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Originally posted by Fir3start3r
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Welcome to the world, of the real...

I never actually pictured you typing such a thing...there is hope....I keed I keed!


You're an idiot, you're forcing me to call you one. Why? Because I said a million times I know both sides are wrong. In that post, which you still dont get it, I mentioned you and other cons on here who are, despite that post, refusing to acknowledge that Americans/Israelis are just as guilty. You, however, picked sides and whenever someone who opposes you agrees on a point you support, you make mocking replies like that.

I know how bad the situation is around the world, not just on the political spectrum, but on the environmental scale as well. You refuse to acknowledge that our planet's biosystem is in massive decline. And there's no end to the damage. You believe that Americans should take over the entire world, wipe out anyone who opposes them and make you happy. In reality, when a country that claims to be a democracy, uses military intervention around the world, and overthrows one leader after another, often replacing them with pro-American dictatorships as in Saudi Arabia, Chile (Pinochet), Iran (1953), as examples, then America is no longer a democracy. There were plenty laws passed in USA in the last 20 years that even in Jeffersonian era would have been called a dictatorship. The truth is, hundreds of thousands of Americans died in American Civil War and War Of Independence for nothing. The bad guys have won. United States has become what it fought hard against. And thats just the tip of an iceberg. But you dont believe in that.


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Fir3start3r
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Registered: Oct 2001
Location: Toronto, ON, Canada

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Originally posted by Magnetonium


You're an idiot, you're forcing me to call you one. Why? Because I said a million times I know both sides are wrong. In that post, which you still dont get it, I mentioned you and other cons on here who are, despite that post, refusing to acknowledge that Americans/Israelis are just as guilty. You, however, picked sides and whenever someone who opposes you agrees on a point you support, you make mocking replies like that.

I know how bad the situation is around the world, not just on the political spectrum, but on the environmental scale as well. You refuse to acknowledge that our planet's biosystem is in massive decline. And there's no end to the damage. You believe that Americans should take over the entire world, wipe out anyone who opposes them and make you happy. In reality, when a country that claims to be a democracy, uses military intervention around the world, and overthrows one leader after another, often replacing them with pro-American dictatorships as in Saudi Arabia, Chile (Pinochet), Iran (1953), as examples, then America is no longer a democracy. There were plenty laws passed in USA in the last 20 years that even in Jeffersonian era would have been called a dictatorship. The truth is, hundreds of thousands of Americans died in American Civil War and War Of Independence for nothing. The bad guys have won. United States has become what it fought hard against. And thats just the tip of an iceberg. But you dont believe in that.


So which part of 'I keed' don't you understand there Einstein?

Take the pickle OUT of your ass...


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hardcore trancer
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So which part of 'I keed' don't you understand there Einstein?

Take the pickle OUT of your ass...



What are you like 12 yrs old? "I KEED" ??


Now go back to your room and watch some anime,clearly the political room is too much for your small tiny brain to handle.


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Fir3start3r
Armin Acolyte



Registered: Oct 2001
Location: Toronto, ON, Canada

quote:
Originally posted by hardcore trancer
What are you like 12 yrs old? "I KEED" ??


Now go back to your room and watch some anime,clearly the political room is too much for your small tiny brain to handle.


It's called, 'humour', try it sometime.
And you are you calling, '12'?
Its your ilk that like to do all the name calling kiddo.


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Dopey
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Registered: Dec 2003
Location: Ramallah

quote:
Originally posted by hardcore trancer
What are you like 12 yrs old? "I KEED" ??


Now go back to your room and watch some anime,clearly the political room is too much for your small tiny brain to handle.


buddy if he's 12, you're -64


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WM2
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Registered: Sep 2004
Location: Indianapolis

Indiana Jones portrays what? My god I hate people. This has to be one of the lamest arguments ever. "Oh, all this happend before 9/11 so it must be premeditated by those damn white people in Hollywood." Seeing as how this specific conflict(we could count all the others in less recent history, but that might take a while) has only been going on for the last 50 years I'm not at all surprised people might get these ideas and use them for entertainment. Hollywood is still doing all the retarded black cop partnered with a white cop movies for crying out loud.

What's that you say, women still dress like that today 25 years after Indiana Jones was made? Someone obviously looked in a mirror and didn't see something they liked and decided to blame it on someone else.

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