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Originally posted by TwistedDUO it's the effect the media has on the dancefloor that is the true measure of a dj's skills.

Dance floor full of drunk/rolling/cracked out dickwads that don't know what or who they're hearing most of the time.. some of us in hear care more about the music and the art of mixing rather than trying to impress random shitheads flapping their meatsticks in the air thinking your tiesto.

personally I think that skill doesn't give much music-wise.

I mean, you can do insane two-hands-two-feet-one-dick scratch on 4 vinyls accompanied by Ableton, CDJ, EFX1000 and eventually send SHIT over the wires to the PA system. I'd prefet to listen to someone like Lemon8 mixing one sweet track into another that see Zabiela or Sasha play minimal-electro-breaks with all toes at once. I'm not talking about good or bad mixing, I'm talking about the MUSIC!!! the ELECTRONIC MUSIC that brought us together on TA somewhere in 200... ))))

Numark Hdx.

i think your thinking about something like this.

I hope vinyl lives on, its such a rush getting new records.

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Originally posted by starboy Dance floor full of drunk/rolling/cracked out dickwads that don't know what or who they're hearing most of the time.. some of us in hear care more about the music and the art of mixing rather than trying to impress random shitheads flapping their meatsticks in the air thinking your tiesto.

I'm going to agree with this, and I would have to think the bedroom DJs here would as well.

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Originally posted by starboy Dance floor full of drunk/rolling/cracked out dickwads that don't know what or who they're hearing most of the time.. some of us in hear care more about the music and the art of mixing rather than trying to impress random shitheads flapping their meatsticks in the air thinking your tiesto.

That's harsh considering it's those "dickwads" that keep you in business, right? You can assume without knowing me or who I am that Id don't care about the art or the music. But it's actually because of these reasons why I choose a digital format. I'm not going to go through it all again, you can read up-thread some to figure it out.

Thanks for your input, though.

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I think Starboy is actually partially right, there is a percentage on the dancefloor who definately fit into that category.

But you can break clubbers down into four categories and it goes a little something like this (hit it)

1. You have your critical bedroom DJs who will anorak you to death and they either love you or hate you. Some secretly hate you but will be trying to grease you so that they can get a break. Some will want to know everything you have done, will want to know what tunes you played that they didn't recognise and so on. Some will come and tell you that one tune just needs to be speeded up a little, just to make themselves seem in the know (besides the fact that your not actually mixing at the time. A large group of these guys are genuinly nice people who are just looking for a break and who can blame them, being a DJ is the best feeling in the world.

2. You have the group that just want to get loaded no matter what and no matter how, they just want a good vibe and to meet someone to get it on with. Who can blame them, it's an escape from the mundane and makes life worth living for some people. It's not everyones idea of a good time but we are all different.

3. You have the random clubber who doesn't necessarily know Eddie Halliwell from Pete Tong but loves clubbing and enjoys a good time and will appreciate a good hard working DJ that performs well and they will definately understand someone that's into the music and plays well.

4. Your clubbers who go with the sole purpose of wanting an exceptional DJ performance and who DO know their tunes even though they don't DJ themselves. And trust me, these guys are not a minority by any means. These guys will have their favourite DJs and they do actually communicate on forums of their own and spread the word, especially if a DJ has been a tit towards someone. This is the power of the internet for you.

Most importantly, let's not forget that if this people didn't exist we would not have any reason to DJ other than the fun of it. For most guys and gals on this forum or sole purpose for being is to prove that we have what it takes to play to the afore mentioned people (I know there are exceptions). Word to the wise my friends, don't bite the hand that feeds you. Smile and be nice, you may not be remembered for it, but they will definately remember if your attitude sucks towards them. It's part of being a proffesional, you may be tired and not into it, but it's what you are getting paid for, remember that.

Cheers
Nem

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Originally posted by RJT I'll be pleased just to hear solid sets, no matter the medium. A good DJ is a good DJ - whether it's two pieces of wax or X number of audio channels in Ableton.

Couldn't have put it better myself.

The music > *

I learned all my basics and a few other tricks on my CDJs, I learned how to beatmatch/how to phrase and how to mix 2 tracks together.

Mixing 2 tunes together over and over, does it for some people and I respect that, that's the mark of a classic DJ that does it for the music purely and doesnt give much of a fuck about the method, given the tediousness of it.


I switched over to Ableton Live, I dont regret it, I love spending hours on end to find a new little trick, I love how it's a frontier yet to be fully discovered/mastered, and I love how you can DJ with it as a "classic" DJ would, 1 track into the other, or take on mixing from a different perspective, try new things and maybe surprise a few people by doing something totally unexpected!


To say programs like Ableton wont last I believe is silly, to crap on it is also silly and means you're afraid that the big scary digital DJ is gonna shit on your pillow and sleep with your girlfriend.


GO VINYL! GO CDJ! GO SOFTWARE! To each his own, play the music, enjoy the music in whatever you want, so long as you arent standing behind those decks insulting the club goers by putting on an ass performance, then you're ok in my books!

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Also in regards to the music...

We listen to the most "futuristic" sounding music, a music that evolves "imo" a lot quicker than many many other forms of music, the way we make it changes, the way we play it is bound to change and is bound to evolve just as the music does!

Our music is teh pwnz boys and girls, it's the future, it scares people, it gives little kids nightmares and makes robots wish they had pants to shit themselves in, I think there's gotta be some harmony between how we first started mixing the music, and how we will continue to mix the music in the future!

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