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COME TO HOLLAND!!

I'll explain it to ya then.

JDdark is right because he lives next door so he knows

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As long as ppl are happy. they aint weak minded. just the ppl who abuse it not use it.

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Originally posted by zarathustra E is a bad drug with a good reputation. Weed is a good drug with a bad reputation. Overall though, everything in moderation.

Weed is a herb isnt it? At least you can grow it right? Like a plant (cannibis) (but i guess its classified as a drug) Unlike E which you have to make out of icky chemicals.

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Originally posted by !_PeTrUs_! 1 Thing: COME TO HOLLAND!! I'll explain it to ya then. JDdark is right because he lives next door so he knows

Isnt prostituion and drug use legal?

Well to even ask if smoking pot is "weak minded" seems weak minded if you ask me. Cannibus has been shown to be extremely useful for pain management, and in controlling many terminal illnesses. Medically - aside from the tar and little nasties - its probably safer then candy. It definitely does not make you weak minded to smoke it, however this is not to be said that weakminded people smoke pot, there is a clear difference. Some of the worlds most profound intellects and builders have smoked cannibus or done other drugs on a regular basis. When used properly drugs can be a mind expanding aide... however I agree that all too often drugs are used to escape problems we would all just forget about.

About the e - don't be an idiot that stuff is far worse on the long term than the high is. e = ghetto drug

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Originally posted by Thor Please don't say weed is a gateway drug, its just dumb logic. This is what was said in the 30's when the first drug czar blamed weed for heroin addicts. Statistics constantly show that weed does not lead to hard drug use. If any of you have taken any science classes you'll know that you can't assume because water is drank by everyone that it leads to people drinking too much... There is NO logic to it. A simple way to put it, have most heroin users used weed, yes. Did weed turn them into heroin, NO. Guaranteed people who went towards heroin or other hard drugs is because they are messed up to begin with, maybe alcholism etc... But no way in hell is Weed a gateway drug, this is one of the oldest myths and we have loads of evidence done by the US government to show that to be false. Just to make my point clear again, if I said alcohol was a gateway drug, would you agree? Hell no, but its very likely that anyone who does weed has drank before, same with heroin users. I can't stand false logic, its very irritating.

Every 'hard' drug user I know has progressed from alcohol to weed to hard drugs. I understand how the 'gateway drug' label is circumstantial. I don't think that weed causes hard drug use. I do think that it is a stepping stone of sorts to further drug abuse though.

Like you said, most heroin users have tried weed, but how many heroin users would have tried heroin in the first place had they never smoked weed?

ppl can do whatever they want to.
smokin weed ,which is far less dangerous than drinking alcohol, is not for weak minded ppl only

i dont smoke anything , and i dont do any drugs at all, but i still think that any other drugs than weed are f00ked.
they are f00king up the scene's reputation when ppl (specially young ppl [14-17 years old] are getting caught on housepartys and etc with "e"/xtc and other mda/mdma containings drugs and etc)
this is what the media wants.. they want to f00k us (seems like it, well.. in norway it does), and its not helping that more and more ppl are actually using it.


just my point of view.. dont flame me for it


greetZ!!

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Originally posted by torontotrance Join the discussion.......jddark and tta are at two different pts of view. I think smoking pot is for ppl who lack something in their lives and make it up with temporary pleasure. JDDARK believes that ppl who do it, just do it because they like it. So the argument ensues....your opinions please.

well i dont smoke pot, heck i dont even smoke. i dont see and pros or cons for it really. i mean its just like smoking as normal cigarette as far as im concerned, although i reckon it smells nicer (but definatly NOT nice!). but the thing i hate is peopel who do it because they think its cool. grrr wannabe's. it does my nut in big time.

and i noticed a few comments about it being less dangerous than alcohol? well yeh in escence, alcohol is more dangerous than most drugs in class B i think so anyway. its even more dangerous than the old Jimmyy Hills. but weed is addictive, and more expensive than cigarettes so it kinda changes when that comes into context. like coke, i dont think anybody wud give too much of a rats arse about that stuff if it was addictive and expensive as fuck now would they...

me personally, id do most things for a laugh (as a few of you already know) but if i saw sumthing was really not worth it i wudnt bother with it, like in my case weed/smoking. specially seeing as i cant really take smoek in my lungs coz it makes my bronchioles contract. so for me those things outway the pros by a mile, and the fact i havnt had enough for it to be addictive to me or there is no pros. whereas for some other people there is. so in the end do what ya want, as long as its not GHB!!!

EDIT: i jsut noticed sumthin hanous mentioned above. i hate this crap about gateways drugs, if u really wanna do summat u do it, if ur wise enuf to see its not worth it (if it is indeed not worth it) then you wouldnt do it... i dont see all the pot somking peopel i know shootin up on smack in a few years time do you? i see the gateway theory is probably created peopel who havnt even experienced drugs, so i migth as well jsut not bother. goodnight.

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Originally posted by zarathustra Every 'hard' drug user I know has progressed from alcohol to weed to hard drugs. I understand how the 'gateway drug' label is circumstantial. I don't think that weed causes hard drug use. I do think that it is a stepping stone of sorts to further drug abuse though. Like you said, most heroin users have tried weed, but how many heroin users would have tried heroin in the first place had they never smoked weed?

Smoking weed does not cause people to do heroin, there is nothing about smoking weed that makes people more likely to do heroin, in fact I will get some statistics done by the US government themselves that shows just that.

You honestly believe that if weed did not exist that people would not try heroin?

Weed is not a gateway drug. Just because most murderers wore pants, doesn't mean pants cause murder.

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if you ask questions like is smoking pot for weak minded people, you might as well open it up to is drinkin for weak minded people. i think if you want to have fun, and that is the way you want to do it, then it isnt for the weak minded, only if maybe you smoke out everyday, you might be weak minded, because it is kind of like you cant live without it, but then again, fi everytime you want to have fun you do it, you are also weak minded, i smoke out but not everysingle time i want to have fun

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Originally posted by torontotrance Is smoking pot for weak minded ppl?

Well, not according to all of the doctors, lawyers, politicians, artists, musicians, etc., that use it!

Anyway, it doesn't MAKE you stupid either!

http://www.jhu.edu/~newslett/09-16-99/Science/5.html

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