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Originally posted by Tony Morello well that fucking sucks the career i was going to be focusing all my attention on decides to lay me off they've found another producer that's more expereinced and can handle my work too, we had a vacant spot that i was set to fill looks like it's back to djing full time again this sucks, in more ways than one

Can I ask which club you were involved with?

i was involved with sambuca lounge until i quit being a resident and promoting, i've been doing guest gigs here and there since then, now i'll be starting up at a new location, details TBA once everything is secure

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Damn that sucks. I know how that goes. The nice part about this sorta work is that you can work for yourself.

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Originally posted by Inertia also, to our veterans that hung the headphones up... i really don't understand this... why would you quit doing something you love because of how other people act? if i were in your position, where gigs are flooding in, and there would be enticements for me to spin at them, what i would do is just, well... become a bit more difficult. if i wasn't interested in playing as many gigs or dealing with bullshit, i'd just up my DJ fee, make a contract with my specific demands and whatnot to get promoters on my own terms. if they meet everything, then, well, i wouldn't have anything to complain about and i would spin. if they don't, big deal, it's not like i was really after the gig anyway. even big name DJs do things like these when they are tired/want to play less gigs and focus on production/etc. think about it, you will have more time, and if a gig ever pops up that you will accept, you know it will be worth it. no sense in quitting a hobby you like and the chance to make a little extra from it.

I wish I could explain, but it is tough. This business is worse than selling drugs.

After WMC I'm going to be starting up a residency at a monthly underground by invitation only party. But I've had it with making money for venue owners in this bullshit town.

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Originally posted by Zild I wish I could explain, but it is tough. This business is worse than selling drugs. After WMC I'm going to be starting up a residency at a monthly underground by invitation only party. But I've had it with making money for venue owners in this bullshit town.

especially when you've been in the scene for quite some time

everyone makes money off you, there isn't a whole lot you can do about it because they'll just book some green noob to play for free

which significantly lowers the market value for everyone

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Damn this all sucks...can I ask what you mean by green noob?

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Originally posted by Tony Morello especially when you've been in the scene for quite some time everyone makes money off you, there isn't a whole lot you can do about it because they'll just book some green noob to play for free which significantly lowers the market value for everyone

Co-sign on this.

It's sad that I made more money as a shit dj with little experience than I do as one with a decade of experience and production credits.

Green N00b = Newbie dj with little real experience behind the decks. IE: Bedroom DJ.

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still. i don't see the problem with taking gigs by contracts on your terms.

i've been spinning for 3 years, i know that's nothing compared to you guys, but i have had to deal with some shit. hell, i AM dealing with shit right now. i still haven't been paid for my NYE gig (lots of bureaucracy or some other shit at Red Bull, they always take forever to pay, but still.)

the point is, well, and i feel kind of bad saying it, but you guys are going to have to become a bit of an asshole. not in the bad sense, but unfortunately, being polite all the time seems to be worse for you than being a bit more pompous in this kind of thing.

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Because once you start trying to do that they'll axe your ass and replace you with a green DJ.

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hah. they do that to me now, and i'm no veteran nor do i use contracts. you might as well do it, since you're not accepting most gigs anyway.

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There are so many shit DJs willing to do anything it takes (suck cock, preform for free, ect..) just because they want to see their name on the flyer that it isn't even worth the trouble.

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Originally posted by Inertia still. i don't see the problem with taking gigs by contracts on your terms. i've been spinning for 3 years, i know that's nothing compared to you guys, but i have had to deal with some shit. hell, i AM dealing with shit right now. i still haven't been paid for my NYE gig (lots of bureaucracy or some other shit at Red Bull, they always take forever to pay, but still.) the point is, well, and i feel kind of bad saying it, but you guys are going to have to become a bit of an asshole. not in the bad sense, but unfortunately, being polite all the time seems to be worse for you than being a bit more pompous in this kind of thing.

There are some of us that do. Sadly, the dj has become a commodity these days. Unlike the sound guy who gets paid a deposit even before he agrees to it or the venue who asks for the rent in full before you walk in. Even special talent (VJ's/Special Perfomers/Lighting Crews) get their cut before the event even starts. Dj's on the other hand get shafted. Those with the experience and willingness to take a huge cut in the number of gigs booked can insist on a deposit and pay but overall dj's on a local circuit are lucky to even get paid on a "successful event".

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