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| quote: | Originally posted by NeoPhono
I just don't see how we can argue that men must take responsibility in the case of a pregnancy, yet be complacent in the event of an unwanted abortion, yet women can opt out of the responsibility when it comes to pregnancy and have the sole decision making power when it comes to abortion. It takes two to tango, and I don't know why it apparently only takes one in the aftermath. |
Maybe in some idealistic world, but unwanted pregnancy amongst the very young and very immature is a big problem, they are not suitable for either being a mother along with a whole heap of other people. Drug addicts, chronically ill, alcoholics, the insane and all manner of just social deviances which are quite possible to affect the well being and health of a child.
It's more than just the maternal thing, it's the fact that if a child is going to be being brought up in an environment which is not conducive to their well being and health, then you're going to end up with all sorts of problems. Emotional, psychological and their welfare. Life is hard enough without starting so far behind the 8ball you've got no damn chance and that is a very close thing that mothers and children share, for better or worse, there is no 'amicable divorce' or anything from this situation, children are immensely reliant on the mother from conception until they're weened.
Anyone can fill a father role.
Some better than others, but hey, that's luck of the draw too when you're a kid, you might never know who your father is, but mum's a pretty sure bet.
So why do we persist in making our society and it's members suffer unnecessarily more than they should?
Why do men see a need to be a part and a very intrusive part of women's lives? Wasn't it enough that more or less up until the last 100 or so years you got your say in everything we did and now desperately butting in all the damn time on the last bastion of reproduction which should be our decision because its in our damn body, NOT yours, no one owns me.
Alright, I'll butt into your world.
Medical science can keep those little wiggly wonders on ice, so come the age of responsibility, lets say 18. You're old enough to vote, old enough to be put to death, join the army and assumed to be a responsible member of society. Stick a few gallons down on ice for later use, IVF is pretty good and it's quite refined now.
After that.
In for the snip.
Yes, hand em over!
"But they're my balls!"
You're not liking this idea one bit are you?
Oh no, not the nuts... that stuff isn't funny!
No, it isn't, acts of responsibility are frequently unfunny and things which go against the grain, but it's cheaper, surgically safer and generally all round easier to do a vasectomy than it is to tie tubes in a girl. Doesn't take long, pain goes away after a week and then you're shooting blanks, no one will ever know.
No fiddling around with slippery condoms that can break and get holes, no horrible hormone pills that give some girls headaches and other plugs, sprays and goo to prevent pregnancy in your responsible relationship with someone else.
Because basically, without 100% effective contraception, accidents will happen and there needs to be a recourse and what could be better than being hit with a paternity suit from some skank you went rolling with that claims 'its yours'? You can hold up proudly that letter from the doctor which says 'not bloody likely ma'am!'
Don't like my idea of responsibility?
Fine, then don't take away the last recourse for me.
| quote: | | I'll also stick by my original point. 99.9% of people, if given the choice would chose a "rough life" over no life at all. |
Back it up with some solid, factual research and I'll even listen. 
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