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This thread needs more IBM 75GXP Deathstar, errrm, Deskstar lovin'. I had 2 of the DTLA3030s in a RAID-0 config many moons ago, and one of them crashed the head through the platters. It was neat to look at.


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Arsalan
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Registered: Nov 2002
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i wouldnt suggest buying really big HD due to sector issues, you could lose a lot of data

the enclosures are the way to go


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Jem_hadar
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Registered: Nov 2003
Location: Pandora (South of Nowhere)

So finally went out and bought a hard drive enclosure...

trouble is, stupid XP isnt recognizing it when I turn it on!


What am I over looking...

I am told in the manual that w/ XP the system will find and set it up automatically, recognize the HD in the enclosure as a USB Mass Storage Device.

This isnt happening.

I have tried leaving the HD designated as a SLAVE, and I have tried removing the small designation piece entirely.

Both produce no results.

Anyone have any insight for me?


And just in case anyone wonders, yes the thing has power and turns on. You can hear the hard drive running and spinning in the 3.5" enclosure.


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Chris Allen
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Registered: Apr 2004
Location: Calgary, Alberta

I think you need to set it up as Master for it to work Jamie, as it's an external USB drive.

Try that out, see what happens.


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Jem_hadar
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Registered: Nov 2003
Location: Pandora (South of Nowhere)

quote:
Originally posted by Chris Allen
I think you need to set it up as Master for it to work Jamie, as it's an external USB drive.

Try that out, see what happens.


the SINGLE or MASTER setting is w/o the little piece in. I've tried that.

Just to be sure, I'm trying it with the piece in the MASTER w/ SLAVE PRESENT setting too.

No luck though.

Ugh.


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I actually think mine is set up as a slave...I'll check later.

If you stil have issues, go into Control Panel > Admin Tools > Computer Mgmt > Disk Mgmt

A friend of mine had an issue where I needed to reset the disk type (or something, I'm using the wrong words) in Disk Mgmt (you'll see the wroding if it appears in Disk Mgmt, then Google it for the Microsoft Knowledge Base article), and there was a hazard of it erasing everything when I looked it up on the MS KB.

To be safe, we copied the drive's contents to his desktop PC, hooked up the drive in the enclosure, perform the reset-type actions we needed to so the PC would recognize it as an internal drive, then copied the data back, and went about our biz.

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Al
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Registered: Jan 2006
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quote:
Originally posted by Chris Allen
I think you need to set it up as Master for it to work Jamie, as it's an external USB drive.

Try that out, see what happens.


he's right, set the jumper(the little thing) on Master(first 2 pins if no diagram is provided on the cover) and should work. (i know you said you tried it but maybe you tried the wrong pins)

The enclosure will behave as mass storage regardless of USB or firewire, windows will automatically recognize it, sometimes you may need a driver if the computer you're hooking up your HD to has a slower USB connection type (the first USBs or motherboard integrated before 2005, may not be as fast at the latest USB 2.0 driver), hence resulting in USB disputes where your computer won't show the attached device, hence no access.

Worse comes to worse, just yank the IDE cable out and plug the second HD set to slave; but it shouldn't be that hard.

Another solution is to buy a USB or Firewire (even better) hub where you can hook up your HDs (I think you can buy hubs in 2-4 ports). I believe that this hub may do.

try and see


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Re: Question re: internal HDs used externally

quote:
Originally posted by Jem_hadar
Cant seem to find the info I really want re: this.

I have numerous internal HDs that I am not using (wasting!) as my compy only has power supply for two..

So I am looking to find some kind of dock that I can simply just slide these HDs in; the dock (not sure if this is the right term) will be connected to my compy via a USB2 connection.

I'm sure/know they exist... anyone have any sight in what I'm for? The correct name for this type of product? What cost might run me? Though, once I know what to search for, pretty sure I can Google the cost of them pretty quick.

Thx in advance guys


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Jem, if you want something fancy, check addonics stuff:
http://www.addonics.com/products/raid_system/mst4.asp

or just buy those external hd caddies for $20 a pop on ebay.

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http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applicati...=ULT31310%20KIT

I've used this one on 3 different drives and it is great. It has a built-in fan to cool the drive as well.

Highly recommended.


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Chris Allen
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Registered: Apr 2004
Location: Calgary, Alberta

quote:
Originally posted by rabbitjoker
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applicati...=ULT31310%20KIT

I've used this one on 3 different drives and it is great. It has a built-in fan to cool the drive as well.

Highly recommended.

I just purchased two of these about a month ago. Work seamless, and the pretty lights are just an added bonus for superior performance...er, effect


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Jem_hadar
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Registered: Nov 2003
Location: Pandora (South of Nowhere)

Well...

Figured maybe the enclosure was just bad, I mean i tired all four settings (forgot to mention i tried the CABLE SELECT setting too w/ the jumper).

Took it back, and then I saw a USB 2.0 to IDE Cable. Bought that...


at home now and everything is working A-OK, fine and danny.

The HDs are detecting as USB mass storage devices! YAY!


I dont plan on leaving these "back up" or "extra space HDs" connected for long periods of time, so I think this will be a fine solution. Over-heating shouldnt be a issue since I dont plan to leave them connected extendedly.

Even less effort than the enclosure this is too, plug/connect two things and i have my other HDs present for quick swapping. Handy.


Thank you so much for all your responses guys. I really appreciate the feedback adn thoughts.

I guess it was just a bad enclosure in the end.


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