Nobody is disputing that his records sold a lot of copies, Theresa.

Nobody is disputing that Vanilla Ice became a household name after hitting it big with a song that consisted primarily of beats and samples recycled from a popular Queen/Bowie song from less than 10 years before.

Nobody is saying he isn't popular.

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Originally posted by Theresa OK you can laugh all you like, but can anyone dispute that Vanilla Ice was one of the highest selling white rap artists for that time?

i'm not disputing anything you're saying... i just think it's funny that you think the Beastie Boys "don't compare" since they're a group, when they've sold way more records than Vanilla Ice. in fact i think they're in the top 5 highest selling hip-hop artists of all time.

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Theresa... Vanilla Ice turned Rap into pop. Rap is not pop! Q-tip said that himself, and he's right. He turned rap into a stupid rhyming game, he might as well said, "Shirley, Shirley bo Birley Bonana fanna fo Firley
Fee fy mo Mirley, Shirley!"

You lose points Theresa. Vanilla Ice is a blemish on the art of rapping.

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Originally posted by Omega_Blue all that work into proving that vanilla ice was the shit for nothing, ehh?

LOL!

Meh, luckily I hadn't put too much effort into it. I find it funny that so many people on here are so quick to laugh or make fun of something that someone else says, but they have no claims to dispute it otherwise.

Bunch of shit talkers

*eggs them on*

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Originally posted by lücid i'm not disputing anything you're saying... i just think it's funny that you think the Beastie Boys "don't compare" since they're a group, when they've sold way more records than Vanilla Ice. in fact i think they're in the top 5 highest selling hip-hop artists of all time.

Beastie boys = group
Vanilla ice = single artist

That's why they aren't to be compared. I was referring specifically to an individual artist. However, I will agree that if you were to compare them simply because, Beastie Boys would win. They are awesometastic.

P.S. Marc, in the early 90's rap really wasn't anything other than a bizarre hybrid of pop and something else anyway.

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Originally posted by Marc Summers Theresa... Vanilla Ice turned Rap into pop. Rap is not pop! Q-tip said that himself, and he's right. He turned rap into a stupid rhyming game, he might as well said, "Shirley, Shirley bo Birley Bonana fanna fo Firley Fee fy mo Mirley, Shirley!" You lose points Theresa. Vanilla Ice is a blemish on the art of rapping.

I wouldn't actually credit him, solely, for turning rap mainstream. That would probably be Sugarhill Gang.

I guess some people would say something along the lines of 'oh, well, he introduced rap music into mainstream suburbia in the 1990s and was the first guy to make it 'ok' for whites to rap' but we laugh at those people because justifying Vanilla Ice as an 'artist who made it ok for whites to rap' is simply incorrect. But people keep pressing it. Maybe it's a part of this whole 'white community' I keep hearing about, I unno.

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Originally posted by Omega_Blue no love for the TMNT cameo?? GO NINJA GO NINJA GO!!

cameo?
dude that was their movie~!
might i add that that movie kicked major ass

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Originally posted by Theresa P.S. Marc, in the early 90's rap really wasn't anything other than a bizarre hybrid of pop and something else anyway.

Yeah, because douche cacks like Vanilla Ice decided they could make money by packaging and selling a tradition of music which reaches back to people who actually had something worthwhile to talk and sing about.

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Originally posted by mezzir cameo? dude that was their movie~! might i add that that movie kicked major ass

i meant vanilla ice cameo.

dammit, i fucked up.

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Originally posted by Ian i have ice ice baby on 7" vinyl

I would have kept that one to myself Ian

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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On Yeah, because douche cacks like Vanilla Ice decided they could make money by packaging and selling a tradition of music which reaches back to people who actually had something worthwhile to talk and sing about.

If I am not mistaken, rap initially came from chants of African tribes... yes?

Something like that was going to be Americanized to appease the masses, and to be fair, it was not Vanilla Ice himself that chose to cheesify the music.