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echosystm
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Registered: Jul 2004
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quote:
Originally posted by Mane
What do you guys think about these monitors?

http://muzyczny.pl/sklep/szczegoly....-NEAR-05&gid=55


rofl.

Pasmo przenoszenia: 33 Hz - 22 kHz

I hope that doesn't mean "frequency response", because if it does, ESI are completely full of BS. As already stated here, you really want a set of 6" woofers man, 5" won't cut it (Those have 5"). Even though I have a pet hate for KRK, if you can find a set of RP6s cheap, they will be better. Next step up is Event TR6s, which are widely considered the best value 6" here in Australia.

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DJ RANN
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Registered: May 2001
Location: Hollywood....

quote:
Originally posted by Mane
What do you guys think about these monitors?

http://muzyczny.pl/sklep/szczegoly....-NEAR-05&gid=55


These are.......M-audio BX5's (and about three other previous rebranded monitors albeit with cosmetic differences (rounded edges,slightly different horns etc.)) I know this becuase when you take them apart they all have the same chinese writing on the internals.

And no they are not any good. They've been out for years in various guises and there is really not that much better than PC speakers.

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Akazi
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or you can just buy one expensive monitor speaker(mono). and do stereo paning and stuff on headphones and later when you have the money again buy the second monitor speaker!
example buy only one dynaudio bm5a! and later a second one...

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echosystm
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i wouldn't recommend doing that

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Akazi
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quote:
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i wouldn't recommend doing that


why not?

is bit ghetto old skool solution but works perfectly!

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flutlicht junky
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I think that's actually a very good idea myself. Might even consider doing it for a pair of genelec or something. Although most manufacturers supply paired speakers as they claim they have been tested and matched in the factory


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Akazi
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http://www.dolphinmusic.co.uk/?page...display_rows=10

most are sold single.

the adam P11A is a very good one and is sold seperately, not in pairs...
(not on the dolphinmusic site though, they have a bundle with mopads for these speakers)

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DJ RANN
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quote:
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I think that's actually a very good idea myself. Might even consider doing it for a pair of genelec or something. Although most manufacturers supply paired speakers as they claim they have been tested and matched in the factory


You lot are kidding right? Please lord, spare them for they know not what they say......

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echosystm
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Stereo imaging is a pretty critical part of mixing, can't see you getting very far in mono. Headphones are not good for stereo imaging, thats pretty much the most critical benefit monitors have over headphones.

You might as well just save up and buy both speakers at once, you will probably get a better deal.

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flutlicht junky
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You lot are kidding right? Please lord, spare them for they know not what they say......


I'm sorry what?


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flutlicht junky
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quote:
Originally posted by echosystm
Stereo imaging is a pretty critical part of mixing, can't see you getting very far in mono. Headphones are not good for stereo imaging, thats pretty much the most critical benefit monitors have over headphones.

You might as well just save up and buy both speakers at once, you will probably get a better deal.


True but if you save up £700 you might be tempted to put it down on some synths especially if you've not had monitors before and know what they can do. At least if you've brought one your pretty much tied to getting another lol!


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DJ RANN
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I'm sorry what?


Dude, do not buy one speaker to monitor with. Firstly, as echosystem rightly said, headphones do nor give a true representation of stereo imaging and because they are tuned to represent sounds in a confined space, they also do not give an exactly representative reproduction of the frequencies in a given sound, especially at differing volumes.

Because of these factors (and others), different harmonics will present in a headphone perception opposed to proper monitor speaker systems.

The same can also be said (to a degree) for "mono" monitoring. You will not get a true representation of the frequencies in your sound or the harmonics involved without having the stereo image as a whole (with both the L and R channels affecting each other) to reference from.

It can be good practise to check your final mix on a mono speaker to see how someone with a small portable radio would hear your track, but trying to engineer what will ultimately be a stereo track, on a mono speaker is really not the brightest idea.

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