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occrider
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quote:
Originally posted by XaNaX
We have been in Iraq for four years. We have less than 4,000 US military dead and maybe 600,000 Iraqi casulties.

World War Two lasted a little over 5 years. We had over 400,000 US military dead and 72,000,000 military and civilian dead worldwide. By comparison the Iraq situation is hardly the complete disaster that the media is making it out to be.


Look I'm sorry, but this comparison, to me, is one of the most retarded comparisons that I consistently keep hearing. I can only conclude that you fail to understand what was really at stake and why that level of sacrifice was necessary. Seriously, I would love for you to intelligently explain to all of us how we can justifiably expend 400,000 lives on this war on terror


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MisterOpus1
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Alright, team, pay no attention to those goalposts being moved:

quote:
Baghdad – Three months into the job, General David Petraeus says it is difficult to predict how well the surge of troops in Baghdad will succeed before the full number of troops arrive and that he would not have a definitive answer about prospects for stability by September, when he is to report back to Congress.

“I think generally is is still early days. We are literally still just setting the footprint if you will to do what we intend to achieve but until we get all those forces in and have really worked with them for a while I think it’s difficult to see what’s going to happen,” he told me in an interview Tuesday evening.

http://www.iraqslogger.com/index.ph...ce_by_September)


Compare that to back in late April:

quote:
“During Secretary Gates' recent visit to Iraq,” Petraeus said, according to a transcript of the April 26 presser, “we agreed that in early September, Ambassador Ryan Crocker and I would provide an assessment of the situation in Iraq with respect to our mission and offer recommendations on the way ahead. We will be forthright in that assessment, as I believe I have been with you today.”

http://www.politico.com/blogs/thecr...r_Congress.html


So for anyone, including Republicans, trying to set an assessment date in September on Fred Kagan's "SURGE!!!" idea:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/05/07/AR2007050701689.html


well, forget it. Of course we pretty much knew what most war supporters were going to say come September anyway - let's wait a bit longer, say, until Bush is out of office until we make any actual assessment (so we can blame a different President for this fiasco).

What a fucking mess.


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MrSquirrel
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quote:
Originally posted by MisterOpus1
Alright, team, pay no attention to those goalposts being moved:



Compare that to back in late April:



So for anyone, including Republicans, trying to set an assessment date in September on Fred Kagan's "SURGE!!!" idea:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dy...7050701689.html


well, forget it. Of course we pretty much knew what most war supporters were going to say come September anyway - let's wait a bit longer, say, until Bush is out of office until we make any actual assessment (so we can blame a different President for this fiasco).

What a fucking mess.





Wow, you ARE an idiot.





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I feel dirty now.


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