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Originally posted by _Ocean_Drive_ But what is wrong exactly with people paying higher tax to help out their fellow citizens when they get diagnosed with cancer or need to get insulin?

Because the tax goes directly towards the middle class or the working poor and not to the rich who pay less taxes so they would be less affected by an increase in taxes. Because they have the resources available to avoid paying taxes or pay such a minimal amount that it is upsetting to people who are earning a lot less but yet have to pay a higher percentage of their income to big brother and at the same time receive less from big brother.

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Originally posted by _Ocean_Drive_ There is a scene in the film that is apparently absolutely heart-wrenching to watch, but unfortunately proves your statement false. But what is wrong exactly with people paying higher tax to help out their fellow citizens when they get diagnosed with cancer or need to get insulin?

If that truly was the case, if life-saving treatment was withheld, then that was illegal.

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Originally posted by NeoPhono If that truly was the case, if life-saving treatment was withheld, then that was illegal.

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Originally posted by NeoPhono The movie, screened for TIME, is double-barreled Moore, a mix of familiar numbers (47 million uninsured Americans, the ever rising cost of care) and chilling moments (the 18-month-old baby who dies of a seizure when she’s denied emergency-room access, the husband and father with kidney cancer whose insurer won’t pay for a bone-marrow transplant). Together, they will have many moviegoers angry enough to gouge holes in their armrests.

Source (Time Magazine)

Depressing huh?!

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Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike Social outcasts are often of the opinion that they must have a drink before being able to loosen up with their inhibitions, thus being able to have a good time. There's a word that sums up this sort of behaviour, and that word is 'reject.'

Like I said, that's illegal. Emergency medical care can not be dictated based on the ability of the patient to pay. I'd have to see more details about the case, but if it truly was an instance of care being refused because of a patient's ability to pay, then like I said, that's illegal.

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Originally posted by NeoPhono Like I said, that's illegal. Emergency medical care can not be dictated based on the ability of the patient to pay. I'd have to see more details about the case, but if it truly was an instance of care being refused because of a patient's ability to pay, then like I said, that's illegal.

Yeah, cool, I get that. I'd be interested to hear your thoughts after viewing the film, (which I assume you will be)?

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Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike Social outcasts are often of the opinion that they must have a drink before being able to loosen up with their inhibitions, thus being able to have a good time. There's a word that sums up this sort of behaviour, and that word is 'reject.'

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Originally posted by _Ocean_Drive_ Yeah, cool, I get that. I'd be interested to hear your thoughts after viewing the film, (which I assume you will be)?

I'll probably "force" myself to. I'm no huge fan of Michael Moore, but I think it'll be important for me to see it simply because being in the medical profession I'm sure I'll get a bunch of "oh my God, did you see that 'Sicko' movie..."

I just want to say now (not that I haven't said it before) that I don't believe our medical system is perfect. However, I don't think there is a perfect health care system. There are just too many demands that can't be simultaneously met that we expect of medicine. However, I will always put quality and accessibility as the two most important characteristics of any medical system. If I, or a loved one (or anyone for that matter) becomes sick or injured, I want them to be seen as quickly and with the highest quality of care possible. We should try to make health care as affordable as possible and hold insurance companies (as well as government-based health care plans) accountable for their actions, however, due to the nature of the "beast," cutting-edge, quality health care will always be an expensive endeavor.

the movie was just put up on bit torrent.

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Originally posted by _Ocean_Drive_ Torrent here

How do you play the file?

Last edited by Lira on Jun-19-2007 at 02:35

it probably uses a special compression codec.

i suggest downloading the k-lite codec pack:
http://www.free-codecs.com/download..._Codec_Pack.htm

which will pretty much give you every imaginable codec and better alternatives to any current player you have on your system.

PS, good film and the humor of Moore's "dumb american in foreign land" is quite funny at times.

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Originally posted by _Ocean_Drive_ Hmmm. Maybe the fire service should be privatised also, and then your life and death situation and fire engine will have to be pre-approved whilst your house is burning to the ground. Not so (see clips).

I was being sarcastic. Sorry.

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Originally posted by SuspicionVandit it probably uses a special compression codec. i suggest downloading the k-lite codec pack: http://www.free-codecs.com/download..._Codec_Pack.htm which will pretty much give you every imaginable codec and better alternatives to any current player you have on your system. PS, good film and the humor of Moore's "dumb american in foreign land" is quite funny at times.

I can't get it still. I have k-lite....