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Subtle
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the Cubase ASIO Full Duplex driver is pretty much useful for any soundcard.


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Sanguis Mortuum
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Originally posted by emc^2
yes. but those who are not working in VSTi realm ONLY are also sending AUDIO data to tracks... which I am sure you would agree would be SLIGHTLY more taxing on the system than PLAIN MIDI -->>> VSTi. No?



No, it would not be, you fucking idiot.

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Originally posted by Sanguis Mortuum
No, it would not be, you fucking idiot.


Got anything to substantiate your BS with? So far all you've done is flapped your gums (well, fingers - to be precise). Care to share some FACTS?


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Originally posted by mysticalninja
no.


ARE YOU F*CKING SERIOUS? You mean to tell me that if I have a project in Cubase in which I am working ONLY with VSTi's and then I have another project wich has VSTi's and AUDIO tracks - THEY ARE BOTH GOING TO PRODUCE THE SAME LOAD ON THE SYSTEM, EVEN WHILE RECORDING/PLAYING BACK AUDIO??????????????????????????

Please tell me you're kidding. I can't facking believe it - apparently this stupidity is facking contageous! Jeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeezzzzzzzzzzzzussssss people.



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Originally posted by emc^2
ARE YOU F*CKING SERIOUS? You mean to tell me that if I have a project in Cubase in which I am working ONLY with VSTi's and then I have another project wich has VSTi's and AUDIO tracks - THEY ARE BOTH GOING TO PRODUCE THE SAME LOAD ON THE SYSTEM, EVEN WHILE RECORDING/PLAYING BACK AUDIO??????????????????????????


If you have a project with just VSTs (Or Reason with its synths), and a project with just audio, the one with VSTs (Or Reason) will use more CPU. Playing back audio uses very little CPU, its VST/VSTis/Synths/Effects that use CPU. If you dont understand this simple concept then I really feel sorry for you...

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quote:
Originally posted by Sanguis Mortuum
If you have a project with just VSTs (Or Reason with its synths), and a project with just audio, the one with VSTs (Or Reason) will use more CPU. Playing back audio uses very little CPU, its VST/VSTis/Synths/Effects that use CPU. If you dont understand this simple concept then I really feel sorry for you...


But that wasn't the question, was it? Here it is re-quoted for you:

quote:
Originally posted by emc^2
yes. but those who are not working in VSTi realm ONLY are also sending AUDIO data to tracks... which I am sure you would agree would be SLIGHTLY more taxing on the system than PLAIN MIDI -->>> VSTi. No?



Whatever dude. I'd offer you "agree to disagree" but I'm sure you'll go digging for other ways to keep this argument going. So, here ya go: "you win":



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Originally posted by emc^2
But that wasn't the question, was it? Here it is re-quoted for you:


It was the part of the question that was at all relevant to your original assertion that Cubase will have more latency than Reason just because it can handle audio, or do you not even remember what the fuck you were arguing about?

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Whatever dude. I'd offer you "agree to disagree" but I'm sure you'll go digging for other ways to keep this argument going. So, here ya go: "you win":


Ah, another textbook deployment of the "Ive completely lost this argument but Im gonna pretend Ive won and stop posting and hope nobody notices". You already tried this one on page two and failed but you're now attempting a new variation, the "sarcastically announce the opposition the winner then stop posting".

Reading your posts is like reading a "Retards guide to arguing on this internet: How to feel like you won without ever needing to prove you were actually right".

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quote:
Originally posted by Sanguis Mortuum
It was the part of the question that was at all relevant to your original assertion that Cubase will have more latency than Reason just because it can handle audio, or do you not even remember what the fuck you were arguing about?



Actually no, jackass - do you have a reading and comprehension problem, on top of an obvious slew of other development issues? Here is what I said:

quote:
Originally posted by emc^2
Cubase running several audio tracks could experience SUBSTANTIAL latency if using DirectX and/or crappy sound card. ASIO is definitely a way to go and is offered by "pro" sound cards.


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Ah, another textbook deployment of the "Ive completely lost this argument but Im gonna pretend Ive won and stop posting and hope nobody notices". You already tried this one on page two and failed but you're now attempting a new variation, the "sarcastically announce the opposition the winner then stop posting".



Actually, this is more of a "don't feed the troll" tactic, to be honest.

quote:

Reading your posts is like reading a "Retards guide to arguing on this internet: How to feel like you won without ever needing to prove you were actually right".


yup. you're right. Though I haven't seen a single concise argument/showing of facts from you - not even a screen cap. But hay, you won! time to celebrate, break open that bubbly. maybe get a life perhaps. As I already said on a previous page - I have yet to see any evidence from you. You haven't produced sh!t besides some nonsense rhetoric and abject claims. So, projecting a bit there, no?

Can't wait for yet another one of your brilliant replies.


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--Steve Jobs (1955 - 2011)

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Cubase running several audio tracks could experience SUBSTANTIAL latency if using DirectX and/or crappy sound card. ASIO is definitely a way to go and is offered by "pro" sound cards.


Which is utter shite because latency has absolutely nothing to do with CPU usage and everything to do with soundcard buffers, therefore Reason and Cubase, when using the same drivers, will have similar latency.

Im sorry your feeble brain doesnt seem able to understand this.

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Looking over your posts (which only amount to 11, but let that not be a an indicator of your knowledge/capabilities) - all your posts are of negative nature and bear marks of an obvious "troll on patrol, looking for argument".

Hey, did you need a whole roll of toilet paper to wipe your fingers after typing a pile of this steaming hypocritical BS?

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Originally posted by Sanguis Mortuum
Yeah, I dont read this forum much, but there seems to be a lot of that in here. Almost every thread in this production section has someone flaming someone else, seemingly for no other reason than flaming someone just for the sake of it, just like david.michael's post in this thread.


You haven't written a single positive or informative post here - or do you come for confrontation and argument? Is your real life really that depressing that you need to have internet arguments to assert yourself in your pathetic life? What's the matter? Real bullies kicking your weakling a$$ and you need to take your anger somewhere?

If you want to have a normal discussion - please, let's have it. You wanna get into insults and name calling? Pi$$ off!


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No one wants to die. Even people who want to go to heaven don’t want to die to get there. And yet death is the destination we all share. No one has ever escaped it. And that is as it should be, because Death is very likely the single best invention of Life. It is Life’s change agent. It clears out the old to make way for the new. Right now the new is you, but someday not too long from now, you will gradually become the old and be cleared away. Sorry to be so dramatic, but it is quite true.

--Steve Jobs (1955 - 2011)

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I just dont like people spreading bullshit misinformation, if I see someone posting misinformed crap Ill correct them. I may flame sometimes, but I only flame when people are talking shit and pretending its fact, rather than flaming for the sake of flaming.

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Originally posted by Sanguis Mortuum
I just dont like people spreading bullshit misinformation, if I see someone posting misinformed crap Ill correct them. I may flame sometimes, but I only flame when people are talking shit and pretending its fact, rather than flaming for the sake of flaming.


Thank you Captain Bullsh!t Defender, what did we do before you got here is beyond the grasp of my feeble brain!


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--Steve Jobs (1955 - 2011)

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