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Vlad
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Registered: Apr 2003
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quote:
Originally posted by inconspicuous
it's an inexact science, and to be fair, a market that is very new, in the grand scheme of things. They've only had a few years to worry about this, because before the internet became so "big," none of this was an issue. It wasn't like there were people making copies of books and re-selling them, and even with VHS, the number of people actually copying stuff was negligible.

They're trying to figure out where the best balance is, and they haven't found it yet.



The best balance would be for them to stop making it forbidden fruit. The harder you try to make it unattainable, the more people you are going to encourage to make it available.


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igottaknow
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I'm against file sharing even though i engage in it.

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idoru
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quote:
Originally posted by Vlad
The best balance would be for them to stop making it forbidden fruit. The harder you try to make it unattainable, the more people you are going to encourage to make it available.


While I do agree, the unfortunate part about that is that that would require convincing the higher-ups that it's not all about the money. That's not going to happen any time soon.

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shaw
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quote:
Originally posted by Vlad
The best balance would be for them to stop making it forbidden fruit. The harder you try to make it unattainable, the more people you are going to encourage to make it available.


Well, neither's been proven yet. With some things, yes, you're right, but with something like music, there will ALWAYS be more of an attraction to get it for free than otherwise, assuming both are of equal quality, availability, etc., but to a relatively small percentage of consumers. It's a really odd situation, and there just hasn't been enough time for enough strategies to be tested to really tell how the two are related, and what the best strategy is. For all we know, at some point, all music will be free, and only concerts & shows will cost money--the music will just be a form of advertisement. Nobody yet knows what works or doesn't in this specific market, though. It's going to take some time.


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idoru
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quote:
Originally posted by inconspicuous
For all we know, at some point, all music will be free, and only concerts & shows will cost money--the music will just be a form of advertisement.


I support this concept.

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music will never be free.
reality is simple..some pay, some don't..the record companies still profit more in this scenario and thou shalt it continue.

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A lot of music simply cant be preformed live. What then bitches

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SuspicionVandit
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quote:
Originally posted by Sunsnail
A lot of music simply cant be preformed live. What then bitches


imogen heap at coachella, lolz


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you can pay a woman for sex as long as there is no solicitation.

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Haha the HD/Blu Ray debacle was one of the funniest things I've ever read.

The industry came out parading their new "unbreakable" DRM, and two months later some guy had cracked it, apparently in just one week.

Rather than try and decode all the numbers that keep the information locked, he simply bypassed it and hacked the OS/Engine/Module behind it that was controlling the encryption! What a joke!


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SuspicionVandit
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i think the earliest form of DRM (which blocked music CDs from being copied) was cracked by a 14 year old NON-computer whiz who said all he had to do was HOLD THE SHIFT KEY during a CD-rip process


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RandomGirl
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quote:
Originally posted by SuspicionVandit
it all started on doom9.org
Inside each HD-DVD is a DRM style protection called ACCS(?) which will protect the data from being copied. However, like most security systems, it uses an algorhythem(sp?)to determine its encryption (which should've been unique to each HD-DVD). People were posting their keys on the doom9 forums to their DVDs to create a database.
However, people started noticing that some people with different titles were coming up with the same keys, and that would be
09 F9 11 02 9d 74 E4 5b D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0
more and more HD-DVDs were tested, and it was found to be a universal crack to the copy protection.
Most people who are hella into digital rights, like i dunno, DjConfessions, loved that it was cracked. Forget that it protects against piracy, it also infringes on a consumer's right to create backups for himself.
The consumer should be able to make a physical back-up for themselves. Copy it to their hard drive (such as a mobile laptop). Or in my case, put it on a media network Hard Disk so I can simply connect to my Hard Disk and watch the movie over the internet.
The number became a sensation and it exploded onto tech websites such as Digg and Engadget (this actually happened about 3 weeks after it was discovered). The industry sent Cease & Desist letters to these websites to take down the number, as it "broke" the "law." Inititally, they complied, but so many people were re-posting the number in a number of crazy ways (fortune cookies, poems, bible quotes, etc), that they just gave up and let the number run freely.
And the industry has yet to sue anybody over their claim of OWNING a series of characters and numbers.

They have updated to a new key (first put onto HD-DVD The Matrix Trilogy), which has already been cracked with a NEW universal key.

i hope i didn't miss anything.


Thanks. I think I understand now

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