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Originally posted by emc^2 Also, scenario based question: Say you're on a bus, train, plane, whatever - mass transportation. In walks in a dude, wearing typical muslim grab. He's carrying a backpack and looks obviously nervious. He then sits in the corner, avoiding eye contact, while fumbling with his bag. You notice a bead of sweat running down his forehead. What do you think and do at that point?

i would be fine, a real suicide bomber wouldn't be sweating and fumbling, he would be proud and yelling DEATH TO THE INFIDELS!

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you know, this is starting to sound like a large enigneering project. you try and try and try for years to find a solution, you even start building one. then half way through you realize it wont work so what do you do?... tear it down and start over...


same can be applied here.... tuirn it into a sheet of glass.... and re-populate in 400 years when the radiation levels go down...


problem solved

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN I have 3 hobbies: gaming, DJing & correcting maladjusted fools on the internet.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN Yeah, I’d like to know what horrible, scarring incident in your childhood turned you into such an ignorant, intellectual-hating philistine?

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Originally posted by emc^2 Source just wondering when will "West" finally have the ballz to take the damn gloves off, extend the middle finger to Islamist Extremists and tell them to go pound sand? IMHO, a day when Islam is finally and officially declared a religion of extremism and should be dealt with accordingly, could not be a day too soon.

Whether I agree or not aside (from personal experience...), I would say that your way of stating this is in itself a very extreme matter... we're all the cause, the error, and the solution, afterall.

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Originally posted by colonelcrisp you know, this is starting to sound like a large enigneering project. you try and try and try for years to find a solution, you even start building one. then half way through you realize it wont work so what do you do?... tear it down and start over... same can be applied here.... tuirn it into a sheet of glass.... and re-populate in 400 years when the radiation levels go down... problem solved

Don't be mad!

400 years ago, there were those who would have turned us into glass........

Well, maybe you're not so mad. It's a matter of perspective I suppose; do you believe yourself worthy to exist?

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Originally posted by DJ Shibby Don't be mad! 400 years ago, there were those who would have turned us into glass........ Well, maybe you're not so mad. It's a matter of perspective I suppose; do you believe yourself worthy to exist?

ahhh but 400 years ago they didnt have the means..... and yes i find myself quite worthy to exist. i dont blame all my life's short commings on foreign governments, i dont blindly follow any religion, and i sure as hell wont commit myself to martyrdom for pointles causes and promises of large sums inexperienced virgins...

now if they offered 700 disease free hookers, id probably take it, those hoes can suck the chrome off a trailer hitch....

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN I have 3 hobbies: gaming, DJing & correcting maladjusted fools on the internet.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN Yeah, I’d like to know what horrible, scarring incident in your childhood turned you into such an ignorant, intellectual-hating philistine?

on a more serious note, no ammount of good intentions or interventions will ever solve problems with extreemism in teh middle east. its too deeply rooted. the more the west tries to "help" the worse it will get. its a lost cause.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN Yeah, I’d like to know what horrible, scarring incident in your childhood turned you into such an ignorant, intellectual-hating philistine?

In the 1960s John Lennon said that "the Beatles were greater than Jesus" and there were huge repercussions in the US. The KKK extremists were giving press conferences how they would secretly conspire to murder him.

How is that different from the Danish cartoons? The time lag is only 40-some years.

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Originally posted by HardTranceProd In the 1960s John Lennon said that "the Beatles were greater than Jesus" and there were huge repercussions in the US. The KKK extremists were giving press conferences how they would secretly conspire to murder him. How is that different from the Danish cartoons? The time lag is only 40-some years.

comparing a bunch of inbred rednecks reacting to lennon and the danish cartoons is just irrisponsible. its not even in the same league

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN Yeah, I’d like to know what horrible, scarring incident in your childhood turned you into such an ignorant, intellectual-hating philistine?

oh and one more example

Suppose somebody in the West got knighted or honored on an official government level for writing a book denying the Holocaust. Can you imagine what would happen? There'd a huge otucry comparable to this one. In many Western countries, like Germany and Austria, that person would be jailed.

In the US or the UK, they probably wouldn't be jailed, but there'd be massive protests and public outcry. The sensibilities of the West are just as strong as Muslim sensibilities, only you have to know which buttons to push.

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Originally posted by Omega_M That's a piss poor argument you make to defend Islamic militancy. You fail to take into account the scale of violence committed by Islamic extremists as against that committed by other religious extremists. Christian fundamentalists are out to kill abortion doctors. Yeah right...now tell me who all the Islamic extremists are out to kill ? At what level they are ready to take their violence ? how much human blood they are willing to shed for their cause ?

If anything your argument is piss poor. you're implying that Christians never did these things. Maybe you failed your History class? What about the Crusades and inquisitions some centuries ago?

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Jesus F---icking Christ. No offense to all Muslims out there, but this is really getting out of hand. First, I am not a Muslim so I can say whatever the hell I want because this is not an Islamic dictatorship and I dont have to abide by the laws of Koran and they dont apply to me. Secondly, I respect Muslim lifestyles, religion, etc. but if I am not a Muslim and not living in Muslim-controlled lands I can knight whoemever the flying funk that I want and they should shut the hell up about it. This is just getting ridiculous. First it was the jokes / paintings, then it was the documentaries about women in Muslim lands, then this ... what the funk??????? WHY ARE WE LETTING THESE MUSLIM RADICALS TELL US WHAT TO DO? THEY CAN SUCK MY BALLS. SERIOUSLY. Out there in Iran or Pakistan they can do whatever the hell they want for all I care. Here its a different ball game. They DONT RESPECT OUR WAY OF LIFE AND OUR FREEDOMS BY TELLING US WHAT TO DO AND TRYING TO SHUT US UP. F--ck that shit. We can do whatever we want. We are not covered by the Prophet's words, and he never had any jurisdiction here. I am pissed off ...

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Originally posted by Magnetonium Jesus F---icking Christ. No offense to all Muslims out there, but this is really getting out of hand. First, I am not a Muslim so I can say whatever the hell I want because this is not an Islamic dictatorship and I dont have to abide by the laws of Koran and they dont apply to me. Secondly, I respect Muslim lifestyles, religion, etc. but if I am not a Muslim and not living in Muslim-controlled lands I can knight whoemever the flying funk that I want and they should shut the hell up about it. This is just getting ridiculous. First it was the jokes / paintings, then it was the documentaries about women in Muslim lands, then this ... what the funk??????? WHY ARE WE LETTING THESE MUSLIM RADICALS TELL US WHAT TO DO? THEY CAN SUCK MY BALLS. SERIOUSLY. Out there in Iran or Pakistan they can do whatever the hell they want for all I care. Here its a different ball game. They DONT RESPECT OUR WAY OF LIFE AND OUR FREEDOMS BY TELLING US WHAT TO DO AND TRYING TO SHUT US UP. F--ck that shit. We can do whatever we want. We are not covered by the Prophet's words, and he never had any jurisdiction here. I am pissed off ...

By the way: Please say this to the Russian government which is meddling in Estonia's affairs for removing a WW2 statue.

But Russia feels it has the right to protest and interfere, just like these Muslims. And, because I think I can guess which side you are on in that debate my advice: quit bullshitting.

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