I thought of placing an abstract noise as an identifier. A lot of promos end up on file sharing programs etc. You could even do something like a recording of you saying your name or the person you're sending that track to and pitch it up until it's unrecognisable (so it sounds like a hihat or something). At least you'd be able to recognise it and when you applied the exact reverse fx, it would revert back to the identifier.

Wouldn't work on a mass scale but if you think someone is leaking your promos it's a good way to find out.

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Originally posted by regulate how do you watermark a tune?

Burn your WAV file to CD. Get a glass of water, then pour it over the CD.
Rip the CD back to WAV, then encode to your desired bit rate. Now your tune has a watermark on it.

when someone called DJ MickeyQ is playing "Tiesto - Burst The Bubble" weeks after Tiesto debuted it, its time to ask questions

unless you have some specific knowledge of what method of marking a label/company/shop uses, its highly unlikely you could even begin to spot any marking, let alone remove it

theirs countless ways of uniquely identifying an audio track

how could you develop software to scan for any markings? firstly you dont have a clue what to search for, secondly how do you distinguish an actual marking from part of the audio? how is the software able to determine if its a genuine perc or disguised marker?

totally new technology which hasnt been thoroughly documented or researched yet

I've just downloaded a tune illegaly.

I've been after this tune for years and never been able to find a vinyl copy (i even emailed the producer who couldn't help me) - it's a full and very decent sounding copy @ 192kbps - i've never played anything under 320 before out tho.

Anyone know if this will sound hugely different when mixing?

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Originally posted by chesco Anyone know if this will sound hugely different when mixing?

Wouldn't have thought so - try it and see!

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Originally posted by skip there is at least one! altho i've been thinking about burning myself an illegal copy of of "evanescence - say hello (gabriel & dresden vs. trifactor remix)" as it's one of my top 10 favorite tracks ever and i'll never get a legal copy of it.

there's a difference between illegal and unauthorized. the track in question wasn't authorized, so it's not illegal to have a copy of it. i may not even be illegal to play it, i'm not sure. if anyone was going to get in trouble (potentially) it would be Gabriel & Dresden, but it's not like they released a bootleg whitelabel and profited off it, so Evanescence and the label probably just looked at it like it was free publicity...

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Originally posted by DJMaytag there's a difference between illegal and unauthorized. the track in question wasn't authorized, so it's not illegal to have a copy of it.

That doesn't make sense. The song in question is (almost 100% of the time) exclusively licensed to a label and the creator is owner of the intellectual property. It is ALWAYS illegal as long as one of the original productions have been signed exclusively. And if it's not, you'd need to have permission of the original artists involved, otherwise there would be a copyright issue to deal with. (if something is your intellectual property you own the copyright).

Of course this is all from a more law&rights kind of view. In general virtually nobody gets caught for performing/sharing/dowloading material from illegal sources. But there is a reason why these bootlegs are mostly put out on untracable white-labels

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Not sure if this has been stated before but, the only way you are going to get caught in the UK is if the Performance Licensing people turn up.
And believe me, they do from time to time it's not something thats so remote it will never happen. They will go through you CD wallet and you will have to produce evidence that you either own the vinyl or have purchased the MP3.
They don't like promos and hate whitelabel vinyl. They are some of the worst tossers out there and I probably to my disadvantage make my feelings known, especially recently they tried to imply that I was playing pirated music. The only problem was that I actually wrote the tune from start to finish. They even confiscated the CD in question. Needless to say it didn't go anywhere but they do themselves no favours by being total wank stains... sorry, I just hate those guys. Fucking music nazis... sorry guys for all the swearing, but I really feel that those guys are a waste of space. GAH!!!!

Keep your proof of purchase, don't let those ******s get the better of you because the penalties can be pretty hefty.

Cheers
Nem

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Originally posted by Nemesis44 Not sure if this has been stated before but, the only way you are going to get caught in the UK is if the Performance Licensing people turn up. And believe me, they do from time to time it's not something thats so remote it will never happen. They will go through you CD wallet and you will have to produce evidence that you either own the vinyl or have purchased the MP3. They don't like promos and hate whitelabel vinyl. They are some of the worst tossers out there and I probably to my disadvantage make my feelings known, especially recently they tried to imply that I was playing pirated music. The only problem was that I actually wrote the tune from start to finish. They even confiscated the CD in question. Needless to say it didn't go anywhere but they do themselves no favours by being total wank stains... sorry, I just hate those guys. Fucking music nazis... sorry guys for all the swearing, but I really feel that those guys are a waste of space. GAH!!!! Keep your proof of purchase, don't let those ******s get the better of you because the penalties can be pretty hefty. Cheers Nem

Do we really have to bring our beatport reciepts from the beginning of time everywhere we go??

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if they cant prove that they are illegal tracks how the hell can they take them of u? what is it guilty untill proven innocent? just smack him in the face and take them back.

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