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Who wins with our forever occupying force in Iraq?
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Al Qaeda 1 4.00%
Iran 1 4.00%
Every terrorist group that hates America 5 20.00%
Corporate conglomerates and all their contracts 10 40.00%
America 3 12.00%
Your question offends my patriotism. Ask another. 5 20.00%
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MisterOpus1
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Registered: Dec 2001
Location: Kansas City

quote:
Originally posted by Fir3start3r
Because stuff like this NEVER happened before Team America arrived!


True, but shouldn't we be in control of the situation we successfully degutted and destroyed? Oh yeah, I keep forgetting how our architects took a vacation in planning the post-war situation.........


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occrider
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Registered: Oct 2000
Location: New York

quote:
Originally posted by Fir3start3r
Because stuff like this NEVER happened before Team America arrived!


No offense but that's a rather obtuse statement. It was certainly not happening at the frequency that shit is happening after the US invasion.

FFS some 2.2 MILLION Iraqis have fled the country out of a population of 27 million. Nearly 10% of an entire country. And who are those people? Likely the educated and well off. Iraq is regarded as the second most unstable or "failed" state in the world behind Sudan.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_depth/6766877.stm

What about this do you see that's promising?


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Fir3start3r
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Registered: Oct 2001
Location: Toronto, ON, Canada

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No offense but that's a rather obtuse statement. It was certainly not happening at the frequency that shit is happening after the US invasion.

FFS some 2.2 MILLION Iraqis have fled the country out of a population of 27 million. Nearly 10% of an entire country. And who are those people? Likely the educated and well off. Iraq is regarded as the second most unstable or "failed" state in the world behind Sudan.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_depth/6766877.stm

What about this do you see that's promising?



That graph is a little obtuse (and obvious).
Take a dictator out and leave the country with a vapid black void and what do we have? Chaos.
Graph make more sense now?


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occrider
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Registered: Oct 2000
Location: New York

quote:
Originally posted by Fir3start3r
That graph is a little obtuse (and obvious).
Take a dictator out and leave the country with a vapid black void and what do we have? Chaos.
Graph make more sense now?


Wait, which is it? Obtuse or obvious? They're kind of diametric to one another. But really this was completely obvious to you? I mean shit, it was a pretty obvious to me and a lot of critics of the war back in 2003/2004 when the Bush administration was obstinant to the changing situation on the ground, but I'm rather surprised it was so obvious to you since you made no mention of the lack of progress with current strategies or argued against the war. Are you saying that there was NOTHING the US could have done and the present situation was inevitable since the moment of invasion? Perhaps since you had such incredible insight since 2003 you can tell us whether the current strategy is going to be successful and when we can expect results? Or is this "obvious" chaos going to be an inevitable fixture of Iraq regardless of what we do? So I guess you're saying that we should simply cut our losses by withdrawing, thereby saving billions of dollars and american lives, and accept the fact that Iraq will be in "chaos" right? Lastly how do you feel about the Bush administration's incompetance given the failure/chaos in Iraq despite their promises? I don't understand, it seems like you're arguing the same point that I am.


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hardcore trancer
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Registered: Jan 2002
Location: Toronto,Canada

quote:
Originally posted by Fir3start3r
Because stuff like this NEVER happened before Team America arrived!


wow just wow at your ignorance.The shit that Saddam did to Iraqis is nowhere near what they are going through every single day today.

Also,are you justifying whats is happening to them right now?I mean hey they got fucked by Saddam in the past,so getting blown up to pieces is all normal now.


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