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djtokia
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quote:
Originally posted by nefardec
Another thing. Deejaying has nothing to do with mixing whatsoever. Or even skill. Like I said it's a performance art. It's a presentation art, a communcation art. Listen to mixes from David Mancuso's nyc loft parties - he doesn't even believe in mixing records. Yet he is undeniably a DJ.



Sure, don't mix the song. Let one song play full 8 minutes, then play another song for 9 minutes. Let's just say both song you play has 3 minute intro and outro, and if you don't mix, you're going have to wait for that 3 minute of outro play out then play another 3 minut intro of the incoming song, so all together a whole damn 6 Minutes of BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM? . I bet you $100, your audience will fall asleep. Compare to another Dj who actually mix well, bringing in climax over climax of the songs and then bringing it down to tease them.

Sure everyone has their own definition of DJing, and depend on who you're asking, they'll give you a different definition. If you're playing one song after another, the DJ who know how to mix well will call you a crappy DJ or worst a human Ipod.

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Zild
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You must not know who David Mancuso is. That is a shame.


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nefardec
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djtokia,

what he said ^

that's hardly a problem when you play tracks that are 9 minutes of pure bliss

if you're playing shit cookiecutter 'dj-friendly' trance you're going to bore your audience regardless if you mix or not...

I layer tracks more than most people I know but I also appreciate other styles of deejaying that are artist. David Mancuso's style reflects an earlier period where the emphasis was on the tracks you play. Now you can play any trash with a beat and if you beatmatch it people think you're a good deejay.

also keep in mind david mancuso was playing in a time when people didn't have preconceived notions of what deejaying was and his crowd was among the most soulful and anti-consumerist out there



for your reading
http://www.theloftnyc.com/artofdjing.htm

download part 2 of a seven part mancuso mix here

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djtokia
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quote:
Originally posted by Zild
You must not know who David Mancuso is. That is a shame.


Yes, I know who he is.

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Zild
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Doesn't seem like you do.


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djtokia
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quote:
Originally posted by Zild
Doesn't seem like you do.


Yes I phucking do know about him and the Loft. Underground club with diverse crowd of gays, africans,and breakdancers. His Loft tapes, yes I heard them, and I know he plays disco / soul and down tempo musics. ( No I did not google this )

And go back to the topic

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Beatflux
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quote:
Originally posted by Tony Morello
there are a few of us that have that certain something to move beyond the bedroom and become djs


I think this is true for a lot of aspirations.


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chandler
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You have to know well both tracks, where is each one and where are they going when you are blending them in the mix, and making the right choice for the mix (equing, bass only first, 4 bar transitions etc.)

But the key to everything is being able to have both songs in your head, try to be good at that first.


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SPAWNmaster
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sorry but I'm from the school of thought that it's all about passion. if it's just not there, then there's nothing to give you the momentum to keep pushing you forward. sometimes as dj's we're lost until we remember what it is that moves us.


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Beatflux
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quote:
Originally posted by chandler

But the key to everything is being able to have both songs in your head, try to be good at that first.


I already have enough voices to keep track of as it is.


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J.C.
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There is one rule to mixing and producing music...

THERE ARE NO RULES...


If it sounds good go for it!


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mikeconradi
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quote:
Deejaying has nothing to do with mixing whatsoever. Or even skill.


This sounds like something a DJ that can't mix would say.

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