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Originally posted by diggerz you need to get out more often

I get out plenty...at least nowadays...heh.

I shot 75 from the tips of a course they used to have PGA Tour events on last time I was out...in pouring rain. mwahaha.

My handicap still hasn't gone down, though

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Originally posted by inconspicuous I get out plenty...at least nowadays...heh. I shot 75 from the tips of a course they used to have PGA Tour events on last time I was out...in pouring rain. mwahaha. My handicap still hasn't gone down, though

i dig it

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Originally posted by Sevencyrus I pay for it?? The working class does pay for it! They pay for it with their labor while the tiny minority of billionaires of this world who exploit the working class get the absolute best healthcare and mr. martinez or mr. jones or whoever the fuck ever working for nothing all day, 7 days a week, has to worry about getting sick, breaking his arm, or even having to see a damn doctor because it will cost him a whole months or even years pay.

Seriously. Why can't we the majority lay down a few extra taxes on the top 1% who owns almost all of the wealth. Then we can build more hospitals and schools. Creating jobs for the unemployed in the process. I would gladly pay for it if I were so privileged. I think people are just being greedy here.

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Originally posted by Zild Seriously. Why can't we the majority lay down a few extra taxes on the top 1% who owns almost all of the wealth. Then we can build more hospitals and schools. Creating jobs for the unemployed in the process. I would gladly pay for it if I were so privileged. I think people are just being greedy here.

Because it still won't be enough to pay for universal health coverage and socialized medicine for the 300+ million not-so-privileged in this country to merely tax the top 1%. We're talking about a staggering amount of capital just to start the system, much less maintain it through the myriad of chronic health problems the population is prone to, compounded by the increasing lifespan of the horde of those of the baby boomer generation that simply aren't dying fast enough for Gens. X and Y to recover from the blow of keeping them reasonably maintained through the Depends years (where Social Security has also been found wanting). Point is, every nation that has given in to the lure of socialized medicine has either tax-crippled their middle-class to the point of near-extinction or driven their economies into depression to pay for it. We'll never see Canada on a list of economic superpowers, Britain gave up its empire's limbs to the beast, Germany is about two Biers from pulling out of the EU because they've reached their max-saturation level of propping up France's system, which failed a decade ago and no one noticed. This list could readily continue.

You (generalized, not specific) want a quick solution to alleviate the issue of insurance and medical costs that doesn't involve the long-term destruction of the workers? Euthanize every citizen above the age of 70 and exterminate en masse every single soul on welfare and every illegal immigrant not here on a work visa or green card, institutionalize the major pharmaceutical companies under a government agency and make them bid for contracts to produce medicine and medical technology on a Federal level, and forcibly limit every single household in the nation to one child (gender irrelevant) for the next eight generations under penalty of exsanguination, and make it all happen tomorrow. Monstrous as it sounds, it'd be cheaper to do all that, in the long run, than it would be to invite that vampire into the house to suckle on your financial carotid for the next half-century, when you'll be lucky enough to die and the leech can attach itself to your kids instead.

Socialized medicine is not the answer to the problem; having fewer living people is.

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CNN even felt the need to debunk this movie. That's pretty bad considering how left-wing CNN is.....

http://www.cnn.com/2007/SHOWBIZ/Mov...=rss_topstories

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Originally posted by Zeonfiend Socialized medicine is not the answer to the problem; having fewer living people is.

Yeah that's the ticket. Let's just kill everyone.

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I don't think socialized health care is the answer. Taking in billions of dollars in premiums only to weasel out of paying legitimate claims is...

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Originally posted by Dirk W. People in Dallas aren't *ssholes. Just look at me, I live in Dallas.

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Originally posted by davemolina I don't think socialized health care is the answer. Taking in billions of dollars in premiums only to weasel out of paying legitimate claims is...

Ohh thats a nice one.

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Originally posted by Progress Ent. CNN even felt the need to debunk this movie. That's pretty bad considering how left-wing CNN is..... http://www.cnn.com/2007/SHOWBIZ/Mov...=rss_topstories

I like that report. Thanks Matt.

I wanted to clarify something here real quick, in case we're thinking on the wrong side, though, not pointing fingers at anyone in particular.

I'm not praising Moore for his work on SiCKO, as far as what he had to say or what message he is trying to get out. I'd just seen the movie online and thought it would be courteous to show support on how the film was put together, rather than why it was put together.

For the most part, I think Moore, along with his fat friends have much much, much more work to do to try to get a whole community to disgrace our health care system and beat down the elite with their cameras, if you can even call it a "defeat".


Back to my Sam Adams Lager.

For the record the CNN commentary was a load of horsecrap as well.

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Originally posted by Dirk W. People in Dallas aren't *ssholes. Just look at me, I live in Dallas.

Meat is Murder...tasty, tasty murder.

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Originally posted by architect1803 I wanted to clarify something here real quick, in case we're thinking on the wrong side, though, not pointing fingers at anyone in particular. I'm not praising Moore for his work on SiCKO, as far as what he had to say or what message he is trying to get out. I'd just seen the movie online and thought it would be courteous to show support on how the film was put together, rather than why it was put together. For the most part, I think Moore, along with his fat friends have much much, much more work to do to try to get a whole community to disgrace our health care system and beat down the elite with their cameras, if you can even call it a "defeat". Back to my Sam Adams Lager.

I haven't even bothered to see this so called 'greatness'. I saw his documentary for Columbine and it was o.k, a bit over the top.

Hmm, I haven't seen 'Grindhouse' yet, but it seems far more entertaining than this.

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The scientist cannot capture the whole cosmos in thought. In his mind he makes a kind of microcosm, which we see as an analogue of the cosmos. In this way we try to get a feeling for the whole. The artist, I suppose, gets a feeling for the whole some other way.”

David Bohm in “Art, Dialogue and the Implicate Order”, published in On Creativity RC (Routledge Classics)