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chinamon
el shit disturbo



Registered: Nov 2000
Location: Markham, ON

quote:
Originally posted by djbruuen
taking a good picture in low light situations with a point and shoot camera is a very difficult task. A 1 second exposure will almost always be blurry, unless you're shooting a still subject on a tripod. Image Stabilization (IS) is one of the only efficient ways to combat this issue, (a few canon and other p&s have this feature) otherwise you basically need an SLR with a good lens to take great night time shots.


image stabilization actually wont help much when taking longer exposure shots within a club. why? the problem isnt camera shake. the problem is the exposure is often too long (when using night mode or aperture priority). because the lights are moving and people in the crowd are moving, every time the light hits a person they are at a different spot so if the light hits them 4 times in a second then you have blur.

its kinda hard for me to explain but thats what happens. i rarely go over 0.5 second exposure for lighting shots. some shots are as fast as 1/20 second when strobes are hitting hard.


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the unknown
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Registered: Feb 2006
Location: hattiesburg/mississippi..yea

ok, im starting to understand...the reason i get these ghost effects is because my exposure to the "film" is too long (even though 1 second isnt considered a long period of time to me) in the world of camera's...there should be some way for me to change the exposure time correct? i will have to read and find out...but ive read the manual before and i swear i didnt see anything! maybe i just didnt know what i was looking for =)

gotta go to work, will get to it again tonight...thanks you guys!


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djbruuen
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Registered: Feb 2004
Location: Milton

quote:
Originally posted by the unknown
ok, im starting to understand...the reason i get these ghost effects is because my exposure to the "film" is too long (even though 1 second isnt considered a long period of time to me) in the world of camera's...there should be some way for me to change the exposure time correct? i will have to read and find out...but ive read the manual before and i swear i didnt see anything! maybe i just didnt know what i was looking for =)

gotta go to work, will get to it again tonight...thanks you guys!


1 second can be quite long for a camera to be exposing light, cause nothing is staying completely still for a complete second. the problem is you need a long exposure to capture a lot of light in a dark club. A short exposure will clearer, but a lot darker and you will probably miss details in the picture you want.

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Speedy2k
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Registered: Sep 2000
Location: Toronto, Canada

Alright so how do you get a clear picture but also have enough light in it. If that shot was taken at an exposure of 1/10 of a second, it would a lot clearer but probably be too dark. How do you get a balance of both?

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mnemonic.
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Registered: Jan 2006
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flash is your friend.

many point and shoot cameras allow you to turn off the flash manually, overriding it in automatic mode so that it does not fire.

solution would be to leave the flash on, and let the camera balance the available ambient light with the flash. its flash photography 101.


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Speedy2k
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But flash kills all of the lighting in a club. It doesnt capture the atmosphere at all.

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quote:
Originally posted by yeahyeahyeah
this is a must in all cameras now.


WRONG

quote:
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But flash kills all of the lighting in a club. It doesnt capture the atmosphere at all.


WRONG


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chinamon
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But flash kills all of the lighting in a club. It doesnt capture the atmosphere at all.


exactly what sasha said, WRONG.
flash is great for fill. use flash and set the exposure between 0.25 - 0.3 seconds, depending on what the lighting situation is. you gotta be patient when doing lighting shots and also be quick to change settings.


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electroYYZ
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Registered: Jun 2007
Location: Toronto

quote:
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its a nikon coolpix L3...first camera ive owned and just figured one was as good as any other for what i would be using it for


Okay just looked up some specs on the camera.. and the Camera is for sure part of the problem.

Max ISO sensitivity limited to 200 and always set automatically
--> Higher ISO can be helpful in darker settings
Slower than average shutter response
-->You want fast shutter response, okay maybe here they are just talking about how long it takes the shutter to engage as opposed to shutter speed??

High image noise in dim light and when flash is used at distances much beyond 11 feet
--> I guess clubs have dim lights, lol.
Modest battery life
No Shutter, Aperture priority, or manual exposure modes (not common in entry-level cameras though)
--> A lot of people have been suggeting you manually set these.. well with this camera you can not
Below average speed from shot to shot
A little slow to clear the buffer memory, and very slow shot to shot after buffer fills
No "Hide & Show" feature for info display in playback

Anyways.. we recently got a Canon SD800 IS, cause I refuse to carry the DSLR to clubs. Although Risky is awlays asking me to. Love the Canon brand and the SD800. The extra wide angle really helps taking pics of groups in a crowded club environment where you do not have alot of room. For a point and shoot I think you can't go wrong with this camera. SD1000 is a bit smaller but the wide angle on the 800 is worth it. Finally Risky doesn't complain that i didn't get her whole oufit meaning shoes..

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quote:
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Anyways.. we recently got a Canon SD800 IS, cause I refuse to carry the DSLR to clubs. Although Risky is awlays asking me to. Love the Canon brand and the SD800. The extra wide angle really helps taking pics of groups in a crowded club environment where you do not have alot of room. For a point and shoot I think you can't go wrong with this camera. SD1000 is a bit smaller but the wide angle on the 800 is worth it. Finally Risky doesn't complain that i didn't get her whole oufit meaning shoes..


never used a more fantastic camera that compact.


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the unknown
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Registered: Feb 2006
Location: hattiesburg/mississippi..yea

so basically my camera is a piece of shit...and i need a better one right? thats what im getting from all this! how much is that canon you are talking about?


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so basically my camera is a piece of shit...and i need a better one right? thats what im getting from all this! how much is that canon you are talking about?



go to henrys. listed on their website for $429 (henrys.com). what i like bout henrys is that you can upgrade within a year for half back.


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