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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN lol. i have a mortgage, car repayments, a massive credit card bill.

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Originally posted by starboy i know how it is

+ 2 kids

...and an expensive mistress

Sorry guys,

But software is not the be all and end all solution at the moment. Sure it's getting better but I still don't feel that you can fault sitting down with an instrument and a marker pen.

I can key a track in the time it takes me to pick up a guitar and play a scale, then the real magic comes in... I write the key on the CD or the Vinyl.

Incidentally I also enjoy picking out the scale that the melody incorporates although this isn't necessary. And this is something that music software can not do on any level at the moment.

I have tried the music software on my own productions (Mixmiester being one of them) and it couldn't get the key right on those, and I'm pretty sure about the key they go in.

Contrary to what some say in the thread I can actually here the key of quite a few tracks before I sit down with an instrument. It comes with practice and writing music. I have to be honest and say that I can't get all keys.

This thread has also moved into the realm of music memory which is another thing that some people have and some people do not. It is possible for some people to compare tracks in the head, for picking out A minor I usually compare things to Scott Mac - Damager 02.

But as Stu says, a lot of people don't always remember tracks in the right key. It's not the same thing as perfect pitch though.

Simple answer to all this is do what feels best for you, and ffs stop trying to tell people that one way is better than the other. If one of you rocks the dancefloor better than me and you are using mixmiester, who the hell am I to tell you not to use it?

Oh, and I'm afraid the sheild will be fully operational when your friends arive... Errr...

Cheers
Nem

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Originally posted by Nemesis44 I'm afraid the deflector sheild will be quite operational when your friends arive... Errr... Cheers Nem

fixed

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Originally posted by starboy i downloaded the free trial of mixed in key just to try it out, i uploaded about 20 songs to which i knew the keys of.. every single one of them was wrong no joke 20 tracks...

I think you must have had a truly wonky version, I also have the trial and it helps me out a lot.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN fixed

Your tears gypsy... give them to me or I will take them from you!!

Nem

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Originally posted by Alex I think you must have had a truly wonky version, I also have the trial and it helps me out a lot.

+1

i tested out starboys theory last night with 10 tracks and a keyboard....it got 9 out of 10 right and that last one was minimal so yeah...hard for those ones lol.

must be the free trial version, what i thought was really weird was that almost half of them were B's.. not likely

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I can't understand why someone would want to try so hard to avoid the knowledge that comes from learning your scales and basic theory and on top of that training your ear to hear what the keys sound like rather than just having a program (half of the time) tell you what key its in.

Besides, when mixing you start adjusting the pitch, and it's going to be way more difficult for a person who can understand semi-tones (half steps) and what intervals work in mixing when you start to do that.

If you just rely on some software and software alone, I think your putting yourself in deep shit. I admit mixed in key and such is tempting for speedy keying, but honestly if anything if you HAD to get the program, why not understand what the program is telling you and do a double check??? My 2 or 3 cents

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Originally posted by SuspicionVandit
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if you are moving from Riverside to LA, get a gun
if you are moving from LA to riverside, keep the gun, but put on a Panic@the Disco shirt. If you ever get caught without your shirt, your gonna need that gun

Check out our key detection software comparison here.

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Originally posted by Alex i downloaded the free trial of mixed in key just to try it out, i uploaded about 20 songs to which i knew the keys of.. every single one of them was wrong no joke 20 tracks...

Hi,

I'm Yakov, I've been on TranceAddict since 2001 and I developed the original Windows version. We've long-ago discontinued the free trial because it was for Version 1.26. It's one-and-a-half years out of date. We've updated the algorithm at least 3 times since then, and our latest version offers an improvement over the old results.

The algorithm used in Version 3.0 uses a patent-pending method in the United States. We hired two professional musicians to analyze approximately 1000 songs in a wide variety of genres, and used this information to teach our algorithm how professional musicians detect keys. A lot of professional DJs were happy with the results, and Version 3.0 has been our best launch yet.

Although I respect that our friend Mark Davis (Camelot Sound) has linked to the key detection comparison, it's out-of-date as well -- The version that's compared on that page uses a previous-generation algorithm from Zplane Development. The new version is based on our fusion algorithm of Zplane and a custom in-house enhancement. It would be better if the comparison was done again.


We know that Mixed In Key is not for everyone, but it is used by professional DJs including Pete Tong, Blank & Jones, 4 Strings, Kuffdam, John Digweed, Deep Dish and many more.


-Yakov, Mixed In Key

learn to do it yourself kids. quicker, easier, more seductive.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN more seductive.

Yep, girls love DJs who can key their own tunes. It's usually one of the things on their checklist of their "perfect guy".


Actually having said that, I would be all over a girly DJ who keys her own tunes

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