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Domesticated
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Originally posted by eRRaTiK
I've learnt about all those things and I've never been religious, and I attended public school all my life.

Gentleness, self-sacrifice and generosity are the exclusive possession of no one race or religion. -- Gandhi

How bout all schools, private or public, focus on teaching life and not religion?


That was my point; that RE has basically nothing to do with religion, hence why private schools aren't all that different to public schools in regards to religion.

Comprende?

We had to go to compulsory mass usually about three times a year, for big occasions. I really dislike mass, but every once in a while it's good to have some quiet time to reflect on your own thoughts and to hear an old child molester spread his wisdom...


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Also, although religious ethos may not be important to you, nor me, it is VERY important to some people in the country.


which is fine. well, not really but thats another argument but you cant exclude prospective pupils because they dont fit your particular bias very well.


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which is fine. well, not really but thats another argument but you cant exclude prospective pupils because they dont fit your particular bias very well.


Sorry, I kind of hijacked this thread with my original post, but, going back to your original point, I don't think this is unfair.

This is a crap analogy, but it's the best I can think of for now: the police don't take people over a certain weight, or universities won't take you unless you have achieved certain academic results, because you won't perform well otherwise.

Why shouldn't catholic schools exclude you if you can't fulfil the "spiritual requirements" (wank wank) that they want? They're trying to create a school of people with a common belief and common goal, just like a Jewish or Islamic school does, and having atheists or agnostics in their school won't help.

The funny thing is...how do you prove to the school that you're Catholic? Or any religion for that matter?


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This really isnt a current issue, look at other religious private schools, there is no way i would be been allowed to study at a jewish school for example.

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indeed, how on earth is a prospective kindergarten student meant to display their level of religosity? why are we expecting children to be able to make such complicated choices? and since when did a religious ethos become more important than the academic benefits a particular school is meant to represent?


its up to the parents obviously. they have care of you until you turn 18, and you ultimately do what they want you to until then.

anyway, this is going to go round in circles with the debate, as it always has.

my bottom line: i went to a private school, loved it. i want my kids to have that same experience, so things should stay the same for private schools or even get better. also if this school limits or bans religions and races i dont like (pretty much all), well thats a plus. and public schools can pick up the rest.


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lol.


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the catholic church doesnt pay coporate taxes (or so some bum yelled out whilst i was livin toronto) :/ LOL

umm yer private skools - N


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This is a crap analogy, but it's the best I can think of for now: the police don't take people over a certain weight, or universities won't take you unless you have achieved certain academic results, because you won't perform well otherwise.


because these standards are based upon merit. Completely different. the analogy works well for private school scholarships, NOT religious persuasion.

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Why shouldn't catholic schools exclude you if you can't fulfil the "spiritual requirements" (wank wank) that they want? They're trying to create a school of people with a common belief and common goal, just like a Jewish or Islamic school does, and having atheists or agnostics in their school won't help.


because they receive public funding. You cant take from the public purse and then discriminate against children based upon some arbitrary judgement about who is more catholic than the rest. if they want to have their super nutjob religious elite bullshit schools then they can fund them themselves. it isnt right for some fuckwit priest to dictate who is deserving and undeserving of my tax dollars.


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because they receive public funding. You cant take from the public purse and then discriminate against children based upon some arbitrary judgement about who is more catholic than the rest. if they want to have their super nutjob religious elite bullshit schools then they can fund them themselves. it isnt right for some fuckwit priest to dictate who is deserving and undeserving of my tax dollars.


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because they receive public funding. You cant take from the public purse and then discriminate against children based upon some arbitrary judgement about who is more catholic than the rest. if they want to have their super nutjob religious elite bullshit schools then they can fund them themselves. it isnt right for some fuckwit priest to dictate who is deserving and undeserving of my tax dollars.


Ok, awesome point, I totally didn't think about that!


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go to a real school.
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