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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles I don't think that the drugs and music are separated so easily. The drugs have been around since the beginning, used by both artists and listeners, and they'll probably always be around. I don't really have a problem with people using drugs if it enhances their experience of the music or party in some positive way.

I don't have a problem with drugs enhancing music either, however a lot of the clubs here are full of people who listen to rock and pop music during the day because they hate dance music, then pop a few pills and go to a club all night anyway.

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Originally posted by Beat Blog I don't have a problem with drugs enhancing music either, however a lot of the clubs here are full of people who listen to rock and pop music during the day because they hate dance music, then pop a few pills and go to a club all night anyway.

Yeah, I know what you mean.

Another thing about clubs is that so many people seem to be concentrated on either "looking cool" or basking in the aura of the DJ rather than enjoying the music.

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles This is one reason I think that being entirely "club-centric" is a bad thing for EDM

As opposed to what?

Actually, being centered around clubs isn't a bad thing in itself. The character of the clubs and clubgoers is what matters.

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Originally posted by bubbleguuum When buying music, you should really ask yourself: will I like this stuff in 5, 10 or 20 years. I'm doing it all the time. You'll spend less money and avoid some mistakes. It takes some training to recognize the stuff that will last a bit longer than this ultra-cool sounding and immediately rewarding tune that you'll be bored of in two weeks.

I can surely agree to this. I've just gotten rid of more than half of my vinyl collection just because my tastes have changed. All that's left is the stuff I started out with, the more recent records have all been sold. Quite typical that the first records I bought are the exact ones I still listen to.

It's all about developing your own style, not just trying to be upfront just for the sake of being that.

More on-topic, I went through this 'jaded' phase a year or two ago, where everything that didn't exactly fit my style just got labeled as being shit. I've grown out of that as well, liking far more music than I did a few years ago, almost up to the same level as when I started listening to EDM (which wasn't all that segregated back then, but still). And I like it that way. The only really important thing for me now is whether a track is good, not its genre.

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this forum has a habit of making me feel jaded towards some aspects of edm that i would just pass by and not notice in the real world. I think it will be easier to regain the plur mentality by keeping away from the internet forums for a while. there is a lot of disgruntledness here and i suppose its cos its nice to moan about stuff to other people who are feeling like having a rant.

great topic

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Originally posted by richg101 this forum has a habit of making me feel jaded towards some aspects of edm that i would just pass by and not notice in the real world. I think it will be easier to regain the plur mentality by keeping away from the internet forums for a while. there is a lot of disgruntledness here and i suppose its cos its nice to moan about stuff to other people who are feeling like having a rant.

I suggest growing a back bone and not being easily influenced by other people's opinions

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Originally posted by basd I suggest growing a back bone and not being easily influenced by other people's opinions * insert random crappy 'Internet, serious business' image *

it is natural to take on board others' opinions you bell.

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Originally posted by richg101 it is natural to take on board others' opinions you bell.

If you want to let other people's opinions (negatively) influence your attitude towards certain types of music, sure, go ahead. To me it just doesn't work that way.

Also, calling names makes you cool

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Originally posted by distant As opposed to what?

the scene wasnt always in the club. as far as I'm concerned though, i think the fact that most of our scene resides in clubs is an indication of the level of commercialism. so the idea of drugs and "club music" and pompous club-culture being linked is a product rather than a means.

we can sit at our consoles here and discuss it all day but in the long run when you go to a good party is when that feeling returns. i'm not talking about some shite rock concert by pvd or tiesto or oakenfold but rather a group of 40-50 kids (loaded or not) dancing all night in a comfortable place focused only on the music.

i think the feeling is more important than the idealism because like the state of edm, plur is a product rather than a means.

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Originally posted by SPAWNmaster the scene wasnt always in the club.

Of course it was. Hell, the warehouse raves and clubs are the very places where the entire "scene" (sic) was born.

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