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Originally posted by Jem_hadar This kind of request can ONLY be honoured if the one who makes it had actually been around as he was suppsoed to be to meet up with when someone else that someone else had been at the Rogers Cup tennis in Toronto at the actual University of York where said one goes to school at.

HOLY RUN-ON SENTENCE BATMAN!

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Originally posted by Jem_hadar This kind of request can ONLY be honoured if the one who makes it had actually been around as he was suppsoed to be to meet up with when someone else that someone else had been at the Rogers Cup tennis in Toronto at the actual University of York where said one goes to school at.

I had to switch to the Complex One office for the night. Not my fault. Hope you enjoyed your tennis boobies.

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They want to tax plastic bags by about 50 cents each so they can reduce their consumption by 95% here in Quebec.

fucking crazy.

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retardedness...
instead of banning/taxing them, they should first come out with cheap equivalent of eco-friendly bags, that's all, and completely replace them

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edit: f it.

I promised myself to avoid these non-debates (whining).

there is no slippery slope...it's just more inconsistency from Jay.

I bet that he has little to no problem with gov't stepping in to regulate industries that spew waste into the air and the water, but now there's a problem because they may address plastic bags? how does this make us feel like "children", but addressing macro issues does not?

I'd be less concerned about this...and more concerned about the science behind it. i.e. is plastic actually worse than paper? a very quick google search suggests that it may be better...but I have no real knowledge on whether or not that's true.

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Originally posted by Orko Yup, we live in an age full of toxic products, and for most, we have no idea what they are made of, or why they are bad. Why limit anything? Why not import some foot and mouth desease from the UK, or some more toxic toothpaste from China. People should just know better than to buy that stuff. We should leave it to each consumer to decide. We have regulatory agencies for a reason: to set standards, and enforce such standards because it is just too daunting for each individual to regulate each product on their own. If you had to research every single product, every single piece of food you consume, you would spend your entire life doing so. There just is not enough time in a day to work, sleep, eat and research. Say we were to regulate each product by our selves, where would we get the information? From the supplier? Who will force the supplier to provide that information? A regulatory agency. If there is no agency, then we have to trust the corporation to do it on their own. We all know how corps decide whether to issue a recall or not, so I am not trusting them to be 100% honest.

plastic bags have nothing to do with foot and mouth disease. Nice one though

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Originally posted by MarkT edit: f it. I promised myself to avoid these non-debates (whining). there is no slippery slope...it's just more inconsistency from Jay. I bet that he has little to no problem with gov't stepping in to regulate industries that spew waste into the air and the water, but now there's a problem because they may address plastic bags? how does this make us feel like "children", but addressing macro issues does not? I'd be less concerned about this...and more concerned about the science behind it. i.e. is plastic actually worse than paper? a very quick google search suggests that it may be better...but I have no real knowledge on whether or not that's true.

I liked your unedited version more.

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Originally posted by Flec and this jayx1 is why you have no clue. keep flicking those switches! your really good at that

because i object to having some bureaucrat telling me i cant use a plastic bag i have no clue?

oooooooooook then

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Originally posted by MarkT edit: f it. I promised myself to avoid these non-debates (whining). there is no slippery slope...it's just more inconsistency from Jay. I bet that he has little to no problem with gov't stepping in to regulate industries that spew waste into the air and the water, but now there's a problem because they may address plastic bags? how does this make us feel like "children", but addressing macro issues does not? I'd be less concerned about this...and more concerned about the science behind it. i.e. is plastic actually worse than paper? a very quick google search suggests that it may be better...but I have no real knowledge on whether or not that's true.

If someone can prove to me that using a plastic bag will cause me harm like air pollution and water pollution can, then hey maybe ill have a different opinion. But to me this is nothing more than yet another feel good leftie approach to force social engineering just so they can look like they are doing something good for the world.

Plastic bags are fine with me. They are multi purpose, i can reuse them 100 times over and they can be recycled. What you choose to do with them after you use them is your decision.

And if they really do take 1000s of years to breakdown like is claimed, then we dont really have to worry about ground pollution coming from them if they are thrown out, do we?

How many people here use batteries and then throw them out after? If the government wanted to do something theyd make it easy to recycle batteries. And please note that i have given suggestions on how to use them, not BAN them like most people would probably suggest. Banning should ALWAYS be the last step, not the first step. Im more afraid of mercury, lead and cadium from 1 battery in the garbage than 1000 plastic bags.

Quite simply, this plastic bag nonsense is just one more "wag the dog" policy in a long list of many coming from our government(s) these days.

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Originally posted by Jayx1 And if they really do take 1000s of years to breakdown like is claimed, then we dont really have to worry about ground pollution coming from them if they are thrown out, do we?

how about future generations?

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I here in Aurora we just got into the green bin program this week.
I get a big green bin, and this other container I must install under my sink, which doesn't fit because I have my under-sing garbage which uses my shopping bags.

So even if I was able to install it where it should, I'm still going to need garbage bags to line this little bucket, aren't I?

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