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Originally posted by mysticalninja Umm I most definitely consider ganster rap and country music. ....get off your fucking high horse. You're right they don't, but I don't think either of those people do either of those things for the music. People listen to 50 cent because he's hardcore, he's the real deal, he really did all the things he talks about etc, and people go out and look for obscure music no ones heard of because of the "oh somethings popular ill be different and not like it" mentallity that seems to be expanding with each generation. And the food analogy where you compare musical tastes with healthy food vs junk food is THE most ridiculous analogy I may of ever heard.

How about actually reading what I wrote, thinking about it, understanding it, and responding appropriately, instead of totally ignoring the content and just repeating what you said before?

Everything you've written here has already been addressed in the post above. If your claim is that I said 50 cent and country music are not music, then it shows pretty clearly that you aren't actually listening to what other people have to say, you're just being belligerent (and ignorant).

I'd suggest you reread, lest you come across as a dolt - not that it's ever stopped you before.

Edit: To clarify, in case you're still having problems, the whole point of the post was that country music and gangsta rap ARE both "music", but just because they can both be defined using that term does not mean that they have anything significant in common. Hence the analogies with food (yes, KD really is food) and art (self-explanatory I think). I could just as well say that a TV and an alarm clock are both "appliances", and screw all those pretentious bastards who can't be satisfied with an alarm clock and have to get an expensive TV instead. Get it?

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Originally posted by DigiNut Edit: To clarify, in case you're still having problems, the whole point of the post was that country music and gangsta rap ARE both "music", but just because they can both be defined using that term does not mean that they have anything significant in common. Hence the analogies with food (yes, KD really is food) and art (self-explanatory I think). I could just as well say that a TV and an alarm clock are both "appliances", and screw all those pretentious bastards who can't be satisfied with an alarm clock and have to get an expensive TV instead. Get it?

No. I don't get it at all. That analogy is even more retarded. You're just going downhill with this argument now. You're arguing semantics now? You just implied 50 cent and Country aren't really music not like your stuff they're just called that even though there is nothing significant in common. Come on man, are you just egging me on?

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Originally posted by DigiNut How about actually reading what I wrote, thinking about it, understanding it, and responding appropriately, instead of totally ignoring the content and just repeating what you said before?

I understand it perfectly, your music is a tv and mine is an alarm clock and it takes a higher than average level of intelligence to appreciate your music, which is obviously why the masses don't listen to it. Fuck you. Converstaion over. I bid you good day sir.

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Originally posted by mysticalninja No. I don't get it at all. That analogy is even more retarded. You're just going downhill with this argument now. You're arguing semantics now? You just implied 50 cent and Country aren't really music not like your stuff they're just called that even though there is nothing significant in common. Come on man, are you just egging me on?

Hey mysticalninja,

I'm not trying to rattle your cage but seriously, he didn't actually imply in his post that Gangsta Rap and country weren't music. He was just making the point that it's not comparing like for like because the differences outweigh the similarities that's all.

With regards to the 3 chord thing though, I can think of a whole heap of tracks that have at least 4 or more so it's definately not a given concept.


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Originally posted by Nemesis44 Hey mysticalninja, I'm not trying to rattle your cage but seriously, he didn't actually imply in his post that Gangsta Rap and country weren't music. He was just making the point that it's not comparing like for like because the differences outweigh the similarities that's all.

That's all? that's alittle different than saying my music is like porn/junk food while his is healthy food/sophisticated art/too complex for the masses.

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Originally posted by mysticalninja Now if you'll excuse me I'm going to go get hyphy.

word man word....!!! WORDDDD,i like the way this guy thinks!

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Originally posted by mysticalninja That's all? that's alittle different than saying my music is like porn/junk food while his is healthy food/sophisticated art/too complex for the masses.

I don't think he specifically stated which music was equivalent to junk food etc. but I might have missed something. The way I read it was more along the lines of it's ok to like it even if it's popular, and the real issue he had was with people turning their nose up at it for that reason.

Damn, wish my music was like porn though...

Maybe I missed something.

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Originally posted by mysticalninja That's all? that's alittle different than saying my music is like porn/junk food while his is healthy food/sophisticated art/too complex for the masses.

It was never a comparison of Good vs. Bad, or Simple vs. Complex, or Sophisticated vs. Puerile. It's simply Popular vs. Fringe. I can't help it if Skittles are more popular than Cream of Broccoli Soup, or if Jenna Jameson's lesbian porn is more popular than Monet landscapes. That's just the way it is.

One could reason that the popular products are better in quality, otherwise they wouldn't be so popular. Flawed reasoning of course, but it's just to illustrate the absurdity of the conclusions you're jumping to.

If you'd care to find a few examples of where the mass-marketed products are "better" than the indie/rare versions, I'd be more than happy to use those instead. VHS vs. Betamax is a good example of where the more popular product was actually better, but that's pretty useless as an analogy to music/art.

But it's a pointless tangent anyway, because once again, I wasn't discussing the quality or merits of these things. They're simply aimed at a different audience. Different people want and consume them for entirely different reasons; therefore, just because several things may qualify as "music" or "art" or "food", does not mean that there's any legitimate and practical form of comparison between them.

Again, I'd ask you to actually listen to what other people have to say, rather than cursing at them and restating your own false assertions.

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I'm listening, you're not. You're the one restating your false assertions. Now I believe I said good day.

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Originally posted by mysticalninja I'm listening, you're not. You're the one restating your false assertions. Now I believe I said good day.

"LA LA LA LA LA I'M NOT LISTENING NA NA NA NA NA"

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I whole heartedly agree with this analogy. Most people don't eat good food and go to fancy resturants, they're satisfied with fast food junk. That's exactly the same reason the masses listen to what they do. Not because it's catchy, well produced, sounds good etc. No not at all. The analogy is flawless. The average masses just don't listen to music for the same reason I do, just because my music and the masses are both 'qualified' as music doesn't mean there is any legitimate comparison between my music and theirs!

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