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Originally posted by basilisk It's the difference between wasting all your time riding the pitch and allocating for the technical deficiencies of the equipment and actually getting to something creative and worthwhile. Admittedly, it is more of a problem with the CDJ-100 and similar models, but even 0.5 isn't enough to keep things synced for very long a lot of the time. Depending on the production style of the music you're playing, it can cause serious problems when things go slightly out of phase as they are wont to do. It all comes down to this simply question: why pay all that money for a piece of equipment you're going to have to babysit a lot of the time? It isn't a matter of ability; this is a question of time, and the best way to invest it.

Just because you're using .05 pitch resolution doesn't mean you need to baby sit the mix. I don't really understand what any DJ can be doing that is so creative and worthwhile it keeps them from slightly touching the jog wheel for half a second once every minute or so. The first CDJs I ever used were the 100s and I thought their .1 percent resolution was more than enough to pull off a nice set, so I don't understand the fuss. Hell half the DJs I know prefer to leave the CDJ 1000s on .05 and never even mess with .02 because it really doesn't make that big of a difference.

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Originally posted by Zild Just because you're using .05 pitch resolution doesn't mean you need to baby sit the mix. I don't really understand what any DJ can be doing that is so creative and worthwhile it keeps them from slightly touching the jog wheel for half a second once every minute or so. The first CDJs I ever used were the 100s and I thought their .1 percent resolution was more than enough to pull off a nice set, so I don't understand the fuss. Hell half the DJs I know prefer to leave the CDJ 1000s on .05 and never even mess with .02 because it really doesn't make that big of a difference.

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Originally posted by discobiscuit +1

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I never use the +- 6%

*shrug* I remember having to constantly correct the CDJ-100s to keep things in check when mixing progressive down around 135 BPM. The pitch differentials even out at certain BPMs whereas they end up in weird places at other ratios, so this might be a contributing factor. Pretty much anyone mixing around 142 BPM is going to be fine with the old (erroneous) law of sevens, but that won't fly when you're dabbling in other ranges. My finickiness probably has a lot to do with my chosen style--psytrance--which is notoriously overproduced and highly synthetic in nature. Slightly out-of-phase can sound just as awful as badly out-of-phase, so it is very important to keep those beats locked and good. For that reason, I place more value in pitch resolution than some others might. Still, I find it ridiculous that the 800--nominally a higher-end deck than the 200--has such a shabby pitch resolution. This is, to me, a question of whether you want to spend additional money to struggle with technology, or go with equipment that makes your life easier and frees up time for better things than hovering over the jog and giving precise taps all the time. If you look at vinyl, its only when you get lazy with the pitch control that you have to bother with such a thing. With the CDJ-800s, inaccuracy is built-in; it's a consequence of the design. Seems foolish to me.

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Originally posted by Zild Just because you're using .05 pitch resolution doesn't mean you need to baby sit the mix. I don't really understand what any DJ can be doing that is so creative and worthwhile it keeps them from slightly touching the jog wheel for half a second once every minute or so. The first CDJs I ever used were the 100s and I thought their .1 percent resolution was more than enough to pull off a nice set, so I don't understand the fuss. Hell half the DJs I know prefer to leave the CDJ 1000s on .05 and never even mess with .02 because it really doesn't make that big of a difference.

but why should you? i rather have better pitch solution than having to touch the plater every minute or so. logically it only makes sense to have a higher pitch resolution, no one can argue that.

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Will this what I been using for awhile as my gear. Setup simular to what Marcus McBirde has. If you wondering what he uses go here http://www.marcusmcbride.com/about.htm

.02 .05 same shit if you know how to mix.

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Originally posted by daphunky1 And how much is this set up going to cost roughly? (I'm about to make a beginner purchase myself)

Why is it all the beginners here get given the impression they have to buy the high-end stuff ? I mean, not just high-ish end but the best on offer.

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