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Originally posted by SCUM ooooooo your a republican i see i knew there was something under it all!!!!!!!!!!

Umm, I believe I said I once was a Republican, not that I am one now. I think I'm missing your point here (if you had one). Actually, I'm willing to bet a lot of people are missing your point.

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ha ha ha ha ha we need a new thread for this WTF

Why's that? What can we not discuss here that isn't germane to the topic of this thread?

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Originally posted by SCUM And you say you don't listen to Dr savage WTF

Is it really that hard for you to believe?

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Go listen and get back to me ok go listen.http://www.homestead.com/prosites-prs/

Rather than you send me on a fun little scavenger hunt on another website, why don't you demonstrate some intellectual integrity, debate me in good faith, and answer the original question I posed to you. Here, I'll post it again:

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what specifically do you agree with Mr. Savage's viewpoints?

Again, the onus is on you (not me) to define your viewpoints (which apparently are in agreeance with Savage's) in more detail. Please do so.

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Originally posted by MisterOpus1 Umm, I believe I said I once was a Republican, not that I am one now. I think I'm missing your point here (if you had one). Actually, I'm willing to bet a lot of people are missing your point.

Dude...you're supposed to be a Democrat when you're young and gradually convert to the GOP as you age! What's wrong witchu? You're like backwards and shit!

I'm gonna guess SCUM is the 1 person who agrees with Michael Savage 100% of the time. I find it pathetic that anyone would base their worldview on a radio show host. I would consider myself generally conservative, but SCUM seems to be far far right. People who are so radical usually don't argue based on any evidence. They just slander the opposing viewpoints, such as Michael Savage's belief that all liberalism is a mental disorder. There are many parts of liberalism I don't like, but I don't consider the majority of liberals mentally insane.

I learned a long time ago in debate or ethics, something like that, that when argueing, you should always consider what the opposing viewpoint is. Where are they coming from? Why are they making the arguement? From there, I am better able to analyze their arguement, and thus come up with my own arguement to refute the opposing viewpoint. This is something SCUM needs to learn, because ad hominems are not intellectual arguements. SCUM, you will be banned if you continue to use ad hominem attacks. If you have an arguement, state in a coherent and understandable fassion, because name calling, slants, and slander are not tolerated here.

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Think for yourself and don't let the right wing radio indoctrinate you. I consider myself a right winger, conservative, but I still think for myself, and I regularly disagree with what Michael Savage, Hannity, and a few radio hosts have to say, but I agree at the same time with a lot of stuff. I never let their rants though influence what I myself think. I particularly like the Dennis Miller radio show, he is a rational, moderate kind of conservative. I used to be a Michael Savage conservative too, until the Iraq war woke me up out of my closed mindedness, and I realized that conservatives aren't perfect either. And that's when I began examining BOTH sides of the issues at hand, and not just look at them through one side. That trully is blinding yourself. SCUM, be a conservative, but don't be an asshole, mindfucked by right wing radio, conservative. Have an open mind, and if you really want to debate, debate with intellectual arguements, and stop with the ad hominem BS..

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Originally posted by Krypton Think for yourself and don't let the right wing radio indoctrinate you. I consider myself a right winger, conservative, but I still think for myself, and I regularly disagree with what Michael Savage, Hannity, and a few radio hosts have to say, but I agree at the same time with a lot of stuff. I never let their rants though influence what I myself think. I particularly like the Dennis Miller radio show, he is a rational, moderate kind of conservative. I used to be a Michael Savage conservative too, until the Iraq war woke me up out of my closed mindedness, and I realized that conservatives aren't perfect either. And that's when I began examining BOTH sides of the issues at hand, and not just look at them through one side. That trully is blinding yourself. SCUM, be a conservative, but don't be an asshole, mindfucked by right wing radio, conservative. Have an open mind, and if you really want to debate, debate with intellectual arguements, and stop with the ad hominem BS..

Well put.

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Originally posted by MisterOpus1 Umm, I believe I said I once was a Republican, not that I am one now. I think I'm missing your point here (if you had one). Actually, I'm willing to bet a lot of people are missing your point. Why's that? What can we not discuss here that isn't germane to the topic of this thread?

Ok Mr sir you have nothing to say. From the start you have had nothing to say.I told you what i agree with Dr savage on. And your biggest flop is you don't listen to the show.

I told you what you r Want to know why? Because you use SARCASM as your argument. SARCASM is a form of humor. So stop with the empty suit nonsense!!!!!!!!!

Hey Junior--I don't think you're ready to post in this forum yet. Don't take it personally. Just remember I told you so when you find yourself increasingly irrelevant here. You're lucky Opus has gone easy on you up until now.

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Originally posted by Shakka Hey Junior--I don't think you're ready to post in this forum yet. Don't take it personally. Just remember I told you so when you find yourself increasingly irrelevant here. You're lucky Opus has gone easy on you up until now.

OOOOOOO I am so scared sir. What should i do? Big bad opus going to get me with more humor

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Originally posted by SCUM OOOOOOO I am so scared sir. What should i do? Big bad opus going to get me with more humor

He might, but we won't be laughing with you, we'll be laughing at you.

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Originally posted by Shakka He might, but we won't be laughing with you, we'll be laughing at you.

And????????? You think you and your boyfriends r going to bruise my ego? Ha never never!!!!!!!!GO HOME!!!!!!!

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Originally posted by SCUM Ok Mr sir you have nothing to say. From the start you have had nothing to say.

I'm not stating anything because you have not defined your positions well at all in further detail. I've tried my best to give you a chance to do so, and you continually sidestep my direct questions posed to you.

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I told you what i agree with Dr savage on. And your biggest flop is you don't listen to the show.

I doubt anyone here but you considers that a "flop", but you're correct that you told me about your shared views with Savage, and you're also correct in pointing out that I do not listen to him. However, whether or not I listen to him is wholly irrelevant to the agreed points with Savage IN FURTHER DETAIL that we are all trying to figure out here. You have not defined those any further, so how can you expect me or anyone else to have a worthwhile discourse with you until you have done so?

As an individual in this forum, I am doing my best to respect you enough and give you a chance to further define your views with verifiable evidence IN DETAIL. You've discussed some of those issues in general such as liberalism being a mental disorder (with me included in that category), you're all for borders, language and culture, you believing Islam is not a peaceful religion, etc. I appreciate you starting this conversation with these given categories, but what is desperately needed from you (among other things) is a bit more detail and examples that I asked from you earlier on these given topics you chose.

When someone brings up an point of contention in this forum that they wish to debate and discuss, the onus is on that person to support their contention with verifiable evidence. You have stated that you agree with Savage. You have named a handful of topics to which you agree with him on. Now what is needed from you in order for anyone to have a worthwhile discussion is evidence that supports your contention in each topic that you brought up. Surely you're capable of doing so, aren't you?

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I told you what you r Want to know why? Because you use SARCASM as your argument. SARCASM is a form of humor. So stop with the empty suit nonsense!!!!!!!!!

I think I'm not the only one who's a bit confused by your attempts at a debate here. Was that really an attempt at sarcasm on your part?

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SCUM: you seem to be acting in the manner you have chosen to name yourself.
Well I don't put up with Scum here so you are now banned from this forum.

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