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Originally posted by iammesol J00F said on his latest Electronic Grooves "I didn't cheat and use Ableton Live or anything like that, used good old Pioneer CDJ decks."

John 00 Fleming is a fucking clown, and the more people that come to realise this the better.

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Originally posted by RJT Because while that's accurate in a semantic sense (the DJ is indeed doing something "live"), it's completely inaccurate when you look at how shows are actually billed, and will in general serve only to invite criticism. DJ's can bill themselves as performing "live" all they want - but it isn't going to change the fact that people are going to expect far more than just DJ set from them, and will inevitably just be let down when they see just yet another chucklehead spinning records.

Probably, but I've never had that problem here...for example when a DJ plays it is generally billed as a DJ set, for example "Hernan Cattaneo (DJ Set)" and when an actual live PA plays it's billed as "Infected Mushroom (Live Act)".

If you think about it, it's the promoter's fault not the performer's...

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Originally posted by nchs09 explain. because i dont get it, but from my experience you cant. honestly i didnt like ableton about a year ago, but 6 months ago, i changed and now i like it.

i already did, what do you not understand? maybe try it yourself?

it amazes me to no end that this is not well known.

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i currently can not since one of my cdjs is broken. maybe i could not achieve this because one of my cdjs is an 800mk2 and the other one is a 1000mk3?

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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On OOKA-OOKA ME NACHOS ME PRESS KEYS ON COMPUTER GOOD

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Originally posted by nchs09 i currently can not since one of my cdjs is broken. maybe i could not achieve this because one of my cdjs is an 800mk2 and the other one is a 1000mk3?

maybe you were playing vinyl rips, vinyl rips dont work because the tempo tends to wiggle since the motors on turntables arent as exact as cdjs.

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Originally posted by woscar99 When a rock band, let's say Linkin Park gives a concert they are performing live. When a solo artist/vocalist, let's say John Mayer gives a concert, and plays guitar, sings on stage he in fact is performing live. Then why the hell, when a DJ, who's "art" is mixing songs into one another, gets behind a booth and does this on the go without having any pre-recorded transitions isn't performing live?

Because it's been for ages, that acts that have been promoted as "live" are really performing live and not mixing live. If you go by your definition, then everyone flyers for festivals would have to be announced as live, that would be like

Armin van Buuren (live)
Sono (live)
Northern Lite (live)
Carl Cox (live)

whereas Sono and Northern Lite would be the only 2 to really perform live. I hope you do know what the definition of performing live is

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Originally posted by Nik Novo Because it's been for ages, that acts that have been promoted as "live" are really performing live and not mixing live. If you go by your definition, then everyone flyers for festivals would have to be announced as live, that would be like Armin van Buuren (live) Sono (live) Northern Lite (live) Carl Cox (live) whereas Sono and Northern Lite would be the only 2 to really perform live. I hope you do know what the definition of performing live is

Again, that would be the promoter's fault, not the artist's/DJ's

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Live means that the sound is being generated or significantly manipulated on the spot in some way, whether with synths, computers, or "real" instruments.

I.e. not just tracks played back with the tempo tweaked a little and the highs / lows / mids adjusted. A DJ with turntables or CDJs is not "live."

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Originally posted by Blake_Jarrell maybe you were playing vinyl rips, vinyl rips dont work because the tempo tends to wiggle since the motors on turntables arent as exact as cdjs.

no, i buy all my stuff from beatport. honestly the only time i had an easy time matching tracks (easier than normally, because matching is not exactly rocket science) it was peter pestra tracks becasue they all have the same tempo.

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Originally posted by woscar99 Again, that would be the promoter's fault, not the artist's/DJ's

well, you get the point, you are just talking technicalities.

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Solution: Stop seeing DJ's who suck at Ableton, like Gabriel & Dresden.

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Originally posted by ******** Seplling don't demonstrate intelligence and educatoin - knowing does.