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Originally posted by SiLveR_NrGy_985 wat is with you sick twisted individuals!? you guys sound like fuckin racist fascists! if you truly want to live in society where you can't ask questions anymore then move to russia or something! im sure if it happened to you, and you told them you wern't resisting you'd be up in arms and looking for justice just as much as they were, fuck heads!

like we need a lecture about resisting from a surrender monkey.

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Originally posted by EvilTree Generally lipping off to cops and acting like a jerk is going to get you hurt. It's not his house. He was asked to leave. He didn't cooperate. Security came and he still keep up his yap and not cooperating. Yep. Taser time

amnesty international has claimed no cops should have the rights to taze anyone unless they truly have to... mouthing off a cop doesn't give them the right to taze you, so r u telling me that if you mouthed off to a cop, you'd expect to get tazed!?? lol cmon man gimme a fuckin break, where are your civil liberties!???

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Originally posted by EvilTree I suppose bouncing this kid's head off the concrete might be more fun for the cops. Or a baton up the ass. End result is that this kid now knows that when a cop tells you to leave, it's probably good for his health to leave and sort out any police abuse of power and whatnot later with a lawyer. Heck, try to sue the police for all he can. At least he saves himself some bodily harm.

so you rather be oppressed and go with the rest of the sheeps then letting your mind be heard?? you people really do live in an oppressed society in which you can't voice your opinions "apparently" quite sad....

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Originally posted by LazFX OMG!!! I about fell our my Chair!! dooooood!!!!! that was golden!! ha ha ha ---- that little punk had it coming.....he is such an attention whore, that lil bitch tried to ruin Harry Potter!!

no offense to you but in a civilized society these events wouldnt even need to be a discussion, i could see this happening in 3rd world countries or in countries where there are still dictators , but the US !?? where's YOUR freedom of speech!?? thats the disgusting part of it all.....

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN nobody said the tasering had anything to do with the nature of his question. the tasering wasn't in response to his question, are you joking? the guy was resisting the police officers. that's why he got tasered. what would you do with someone that was intentionally causing mischief at your quorum then? where does it say you have the right to be a dick without consequences? i know you have this massive police chip on your shoulder, and perhaps the tasering did go to far. but that doesn't change the fact the guy is a tool, was acting like a tool, is a self-confessed serial pest and this time he got his just desserts. the guy was clearly resisting the police. what do you expect? i think the people in the audience cheering the police on says it all, dont you? what the fuck are you on about? because we don't fall into your anti-establishment line automatically we're somehow cowards? you know what a fucking coward is? someone that benefits from the safety that the state (either police or military) provides for them and does nothing but spit on the people that make all the sacrifices so that you are free to spit on them in the first place

dude listen to yourself..... does that give any human being the right to taze another human for not complying with the laws?? coming from australia though your responses really don't surprise me thats where all the prisoners and skin heads were dumped... you racist pig!

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN nobody said the tasering had anything to do with the nature of his question. the tasering wasn't in response to his question, are you joking? the guy was resisting the police officers. that's why he got tasered. what would you do with someone that was intentionally causing mischief at your quorum then? where does it say you have the right to be a dick without consequences? i know you have this massive police chip on your shoulder, and perhaps the tasering did go to far. but that doesn't change the fact the guy is a tool, was acting like a tool, is a self-confessed serial pest and this time he got his just desserts. the guy was clearly resisting the police. what do you expect? i think the people in the audience cheering the police on says it all, dont you? what the fuck are you on about? because we don't fall into your anti-establishment line automatically we're somehow cowards?

How does raising questions, regardless of the question, warrant an arrest? Since when the fuck was free speech illegal? And since when the fuck did that warrant being tased?

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN you know what a fucking coward is? someone that benefits from the safety that the state (either police or military) provides for them and does nothing but spit on the people that make all the sacrifices so that you are free to spit on them in the first place

LOL, I think you'd be a prime candidate. Since when was "appreciating" the "state (police or military)" a feat of courage? What in the world does that have to do with courage? Please look up the word in a dictionary, pehaps then you wouldn't be making absolutely nonsensial statemnts like that. I don't believe I've ever heard such a load of crap before, correlating "respect" for "authority" [aka being passive and subsurviant] with courage... but I do recall the contary being a little more related lol. Are you a fucking retard? And exactly what fucking service or protection is eigther one providing me or anyone else for that matter (in this instance or countless others)?

And please don't bother responding if you're going to post more retarded comments reflecting scewed logic and morality. I feel like I'm talking to a complete idot and wasting my breath (which I'm doing by simply responding to your retarded post in the first place).

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Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me— and there was no one left to speak out for me." -Martin Niemöller

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Originally posted by SiLveR_NrGy_985 wat is with you sick twisted individuals!? you guys sound like fuckin racist fascists! if you truly want to live in society where you can't ask questions anymore then move to russia or something! im sure if it happened to you, and you told them you wern't resisting you'd be up in arms and looking for justice just as much as they were, fuck heads!

it was a quote from the movie Monty Python and the Holy Grail that i posted.

i saw some irony, f**kin sue me. get a sense of humor

i sure that kid that got tased would get a chuckle out of it.

this whole thing was a set up from the beginning.
he's an attention whore apparently.

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Originally posted by shaolin_Z How does raising questions, regardless of the question, warrant an arrest? Since when the fuck was free speech illegal? And since when the fuck did that warrant being tased?

why are you putting words in my mouth yet again? is this the only way you know how to argue? i didnt say asking a question was grounds for an arrest, and i guarantee you that's not why he was arrested. this has absolutely nothing to do with his question, i think i've pointed that out enough for you to get it.

i like it how you try and frame the reference of the debate with fallacies. hint: the guy was arrested for disrupting the occasion. the law clearly gives officers the right to arrest people for such activites. dont like the law? perhaps you wouldn't mind if i came round to your house and acted like a dick then?? and again, im not defending the use of the tasers, just pointing out that the guy is a fuckwit and this time he bit off more than he could chew. that's what you get when you make a habit of being a dickhead.

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Originally posted by shaolin_Z LOL, I think you'd be a prime candidate. Since when was "appreciating" the "state (police or military)" a feat of courage? What in the world does that have to do with courage? Please look up the word in a dictionary, pehaps then you wouldn't be making absolutely nonsensial statemnts like that.

where did i say that this equated with courage? the opposite of hiding behind the freedoms these institutions provide and spewing forth typically one-eyed, irrational and biased hatred isnt "appreciating" the state, it is manning up and putting your money where your mouth is and actually doing something other than typing furiously with that massive chip on your shoulder. courage is putting your life on the line so little pseudo intellectuals like yourself can live in relative safety and have the luxury of shitting all over those same people that provide it for you.

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Originally posted by shaolin_Z I don't believe I've ever heard such a load of crap before, correlating "respect" for "authority" [aka being passive and subsurviant] with courage... but I do recall the contary being a little more related lol. Are you a fucking retard? And exactly what fucking service or protection is eigther one providing me or anyone else for that matter (in this instance or countless others)?

fuck you. you're the one trying to correlate it (again, trying to put words into my mouth so you can more easily attack them) that's not what i said and you know it. LOL, you remind me of me when i was young and stupid. yeah shaolin, you're really anti passive and subservient! keep fighting the power with this here music website!

i didnt correlate shit, that's you and your faulty logic.

if i really need to explain to you the services or protection you are provided with then this debate is a lost cause. try not to let the blind hatred and irrational bias eat you up inside.

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"First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me— and there was no one left to speak out for me." -Martin Niemöller

One thing I failed to clarify in my anti-conspiracy rant - although the guy was being a deliberate turd and being purposely disruptive and disrespectful, I'm not an advocate for tasing. Overall I think they are a bit overused for activities that could be settled with a wee bit more backbone. Merely resisting arrest to me is not necessarily grounds for tasing, but unfortunately there's a bit of a gray area on this issue that's continually being contended and questioned - likely for good reason I might add.

It's a worthy debate on that issue alone. However my issue was against anyone somehow linking this douchebag's free speech rights supposedly being taken away because he's speaking some slithering conspiratorial truth about Kerry's college background in an elusive society. That simply holds no water given the little turd's actions (i.e. "known prankster" with his own website of practical jokes).

So perhaps before this thread gets closed down by Neo or Lira, perhaps we can all settle down just a wee bit and cut down the flaming and name calling just a tad?

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Originally posted by MisterOpus1 One thing I failed to clarify in my anti-conspiracy rant - although the guy was being a deliberate turd and being purposely disruptive and disrespectful, I'm not an advocate for tasing. Overall I think they are a bit overused for activities that could be settled with a wee bit more backbone. Merely resisting arrest to me is not necessarily grounds for tasing, but unfortunately there's a bit of a gray area on this issue that's continually being contended and questioned - likely for good reason I might add. It's a worthy debate on that issue alone. However my issue was against anyone somehow linking this douchebag's free speech rights supposedly being taken away because he's speaking some slithering conspiratorial truth about Kerry's college background in an elusive society. That simply holds no water given the little turd's actions (i.e. "known prankster" with his own website of practical jokes). So perhaps before this thread gets closed down by Neo or Lira, perhaps we can all settle down just a wee bit and cut down the flaming and name calling just a tad?

i mostly agree. im just annoyed at the supposed assault on free speech when there's just as much right to engage in discourse without it being hijacked by some retard desperate for attention. i dont support tasers either, but im not going to cry about some fool getting some electricity when he was clearly in the wrong.

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