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Originally posted by idoru Give me something that'll change my opinion. Seriously, show me something good because I haven-... aah, fuck it, if I continue it'll just turn this thread into another one of "those threads."

i'm not going to bother trying to defend trance to you here, that isn't the point, go ahead & listen to what you like. but writing it off purely based on the fact that one man decided to remix an old song & drop it into one of his sets is, for the want of a better term, incredibly retarded. when put like that i'm sure you can agree, too

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Originally posted by isoterra i'm not going to bother trying to defend trance to you here, that isn't the point, go ahead & listen to what you like. but writing it off purely based on the fact that one man decided to remix an old song & drop it into one of his sets is, for the want of a better term, incredibly retarded. when put like that i'm sure you can agree, too

1.) Was there a need for this? No. He could just as easily drop the original and get the same exact reaction.
2.) Am I writing it off just because of one man? Lord no. This is just another little piece added to the larger puzzle of why I don't like Trance anymore. It could've been anyone remixing this and I would've said the same exact thing. The more I see crap like this being done the more interest/faith/whathaveyou I lose.

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Was there a need for this? No. He could just as easily drop the original and get the same exact reaction.

it's branding


think about how many people on limewire and soulseek will label this

DJ Tiesto - Solarcoaster

from now on

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Originally posted by nefardec it's branding think about how many people on limewire and soulseek will label this DJ Tiesto - Solarcoaster from now on

Hence why I said "need." Tijs "wants" it.

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Originally posted by nefardec it needs to be said, though, that solarcoaster is a remake of another track... Burst Your Bubble Here "Marwood Walks" from the movie "Withnail and I" by David Dundas & Rick Wentworth

Wow, never knew it was a cheap ripoff. Thanks for the info!

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Originally posted by idoru 1.) Was there a need for this? No. He could just as easily drop the original and get the same exact reaction. 2.) Am I writing it off just because of one man? Lord no. This is just another little piece added to the larger puzzle of why I don't like Trance anymore. It could've been anyone remixing this and I would've said the same exact thing. The more I see crap like this being done the more interest/faith/whathaveyou I lose.

1. when did need ever come into it? if the original is that perfect then where was the need for any remixes to get commissioned in the first place? hell there isn't any need for him to play any of the tracks he chooses.. he has his own reasons & unless you're in the crowd at one of his nights then they shouldn't affect you.

2. if it makes you lose interest in tiesto, then that's fair. but are you going to end up liking the rare new decent trance tune less just because tijs remixed solarcoaster once? i'd guess not.. small things like this shouldn't change your view of an entire genre, that's basically the point i'm trying to make

well, as others have said it's not really a cheap ripoff. I just wanted to point out that the history of electronic music is a history of remaking and re-presenting existing music.

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Originally posted by isoterra 2. if it makes you lose interest in tiesto, then that's fair. but are you going to end up liking the rare new decent trance tune less just because tijs remixed solarcoaster once? i'd guess not.. small things like this shouldn't change your view of an entire genre, that's basically the point i'm trying to make

You're missing my point. It's not just this act by Tijs that makes me lose interest. There have been way too many "200x" remakes and useless remixes as of late that are done that don't change much, if anything except up the fame of said producer or DJ. This is another one of those. This incident alone hasn't made me lose interest, it's the entire concept that seems to be so popular lately that has done so. That, and lack of creativity in general, but that's a whole different discussion.

I never write off anything just because of one bad experience. There are tunes by my favorite artists that I think are shit, but they're still my favorite artists. Some of my favorite DJs are DJs who had a very shitty set the first time I saw them, but as a DJ I know that everyone has off-nights so I'm willing to give DJs more than a couple of chances. Writing off a collective group based off of one thing is absolutely silly.

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Originally posted by Ben_Lei Wow, never knew it was a cheap ripoff. Thanks for the info!

That's because it isn't.

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oh c'mon. The youtube video was only a clip. Let's just assume that it starts off with a huge breaks sequence and ends with a full scale orchestra, all co-produced over 3 years by by James Horner in the isolation of an igloo in Anchorage.

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so what if he mad a remix? wasn't cafe del mare remixed by 200 other djs?