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Originally posted by stevësto i think the problem with trance all these years was that the beat was so mind numbingly boring. doof doof doof. they had some of the best symphony sounding orchestrations, top of the world opera classical stuff, but the beat was always in the same bpm range, and the beat was not very creative or very groovy. people got tired of it.

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Originally posted by SMC I understand what "neotrance" refers to. Slightly melodic (or trancy) but still with the stripped down raw quality of techno or tech-house.

YES! This is exactly what I’m trying to say. The music people mistakenly call neo-trance is actually techno/tech-house/minimal or a combination of all that, not neo-trance.

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Originally posted by InDeepSpace Neo-trance is a hybrid of minimal techno and early nineties trance. It goes really back to the roots. I totally dig this stuff at the moment. Its absolutely warm sounding stuff makes you drift away.

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Originally posted by paulandrews That's true. I don't perceive 'neo-trance' as a conscious counteraction to the overblown epic trance, more like some trend in techno that was maybe a part of the ubiquitous 90s revival. Seems to me that people who were a fans of the older trance sound were responsible for coining the term with hope the good old days may come back in some form. It's wishful thinking that might probably be never completely fulfilled.

You guys make some great points and hit the nail on the head with what I was trying to say in my first post. This is another less obvious flaw which I did not address earlier. I say less obvious because this mistake is easily made and that is using the word neo-trance to describe style of trance music that came out in the early to mid 90's, when in fact there is already one for it and it goes something like this:

proper/pure/classic trance <---You guys still remember that one I hope

or just simply...

trance.

Conclusion: Drop the trendy neo- prefix and let the trance revival continue!

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Originally posted by Project-K Neo trance is just trance. The problem is that for ages people have been calling 'trance' stuff that shouldn't be called trance.

definately, it's just a new name for something thats coming from a new genre that you'd be ashamed to call trance
my example is Gabriel Ananda + Cio D'or - Lauschgoldengel, the best trance track of recent fucking times

yeah but nowadays "trance" is a dirty word. people think of tiesto and armin and that stuff. so if you're a DJ who plays this stuff, why not call your music neo-trance. the trance revival has a loooong way to go if it's going to overcome the popularity of today's well known popular "trance".

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Originally posted by Az definately, it's just a new name for something thats coming from a new genre that you'd be ashamed to call trance my example is Gabriel Ananda + Cio D'or - Lauschgoldengel, the best trance track of recent fucking times

i was browsing juno when i heard that and had to buy it. i didnt care if it was a one sided vinyl. never heard another dj play it, and still haven't, love it. but fuck me, that's trance? maybe im stupid, but for as long as ive known, trance is paul van dyk - words, plastic boy - silverbath, midway - monkey forest, accessive rhyhtm - activate. You cant play lauschgoldangel with that stuff. -8 to +8 is not enough range to match the bpm.

i think the core of it, is this new stuff has the trance sound and feeling, but with a slower groovier bpm.

imo isoterra pretty much hit the nail on the head

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Originally posted by TranceArmstrong yeah but nowadays "trance" is a dirty word. people think of tiesto and armin and that stuff. so if you're a DJ who plays this stuff, why not call your music neo-trance.

exactly. the "neo" thing is just a random name to differentiate.

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Originally posted by stevësto i was browsing juno when i heard that and had to buy it. i didnt care if it was a one sided vinyl. never heard another dj play it, and still haven't, love it. but fuck me, that's trance? maybe im stupid, but for as long as ive known, trance is paul van dyk - words, plastic boy - silverbath, midway - monkey forest, accessive rhyhtm - activate. You cant play lauschgoldangel with that stuff. -8 to +8 is not enough range to match the bpm.

it's not made to played with that stuff.

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Originally posted by noikeee it's not made to played with that stuff.

exactly. because lauschgoldengel is not trance. thanks for supporting what i said!

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Originally posted by stevësto but for as long as ive known, trance is paul van dyk - words, plastic boy - silverbath, midway - monkey forest, accessive rhyhtm - activate.

Well, if this is your definition of trance (don't get me wrong, that is trance, but a very wrong way to look at it), then Lauschgoldengel isn't trance. But if you're looking on trance as on trippy and hypnotic music that will entrance you then Lauschgoldengel is definitely trance

Trance isn't as much of a narrow genre as it may seem, there are many different types of trance that don't necessarily mix with each other, altho this can be considered borderline stuff..

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Originally posted by isoterra 80s electro/synthpop/electronica

Bingo. The first video is simply not neo-trance. 70's and 80's disco used much of the same type of sounds, and people like Alden Tyrell have been reviving that sound for years.

Listen to a track like Delia Gonzalez & Gavin Russom - Rise (DFA Remix) which is quite a few years old. Listen to those synths. Pure disco revivalism. Sure it's long and repetitive, and quite spacey, but that doesn't make it trance.