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Clovis
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Registered: Apr 2004
Location: Los Angeles

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Originally posted by CND
Explain.

And how is this "stagecoach" different than Hillary?



Do I really have to? I could write a book on the subject, but to anyone who even remotely follows the campaigns and records of the candidates, it isn't hard to see.
Yes Hillary does buddy up to big business and yes she did vote for the war, but there are profound differences in her foreign policy stance compared to those of Romney & Giuliani. Both Romney & Giuliani are proponents of preemptive war and do not plan on any large reduction in Iraq troop levels if elected. Giuliani in particular has already taken key neoconservative advisers on board his team, some of whom were architects of the plan to invade Iraq, and many of whom are at this moment actively pushing for war against Iran.
Simply put, if you look at what both of them plan to do in office, it differs little from what George Bush is already doing right now. They are for mass privatization, strongly against the democratic candidates health care reform proposals, and from what I can tell perfectly content in continuing down the road Bush has paved, with a shrinking middle class and skyrocketing of social inequalities under a unified effort to maximise profits for corporations in areas never intended for them to make much money in, such as disaster relief, private security militias, infrastructure maintenance, and healthcare.


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Make no mistake about it. Hilary will win the general election - comfortably. She is clearly a woman among boys in this field with too much money, name recognition, and political clout and is dealing with not only a weak Republican field, but also the baggage the GOP bring to the table via Bush and Iraq. This will be the largest margin of Victory since Bush Sr. trounced Dukakis in 88.

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Boomer187
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Originally posted by |Thrax|

Oh, and here's a fun fact, Hitlers mom was a Jew.



You should read your bible, you will find all kinds of crazy crap in there. Like, did you know jesus was a jew?

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CND
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Registered: Nov 2004
Location: San Diego, CA

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Originally posted by Clovis
Do I really have to? I could write a book on the subject, but to anyone who even remotely follows the campaigns and records of the candidates, it isn't hard to see.
Yes Hillary does buddy up to big business and yes she did vote for the war, but there are profound differences in her foreign policy stance compared to those of Romney & Giuliani. Both Romney & Giuliani are proponents of preemptive war and do not plan on any large reduction in Iraq troop levels if elected. Giuliani in particular has already taken key neoconservative advisers on board his team, some of whom were architects of the plan to invade Iraq, and many of whom are at this moment actively pushing for war against Iran.
Simply put, if you look at what both of them plan to do in office, it differs little from what George Bush is already doing right now. They are for mass privatization, strongly against the democratic candidates health care reform proposals, and from what I can tell perfectly content in continuing down the road Bush has paved, with a shrinking middle class and skyrocketing of social inequalities under a unified effort to maximise profits for corporations in areas never intended for them to make much money in, such as disaster relief, private security militias, infrastructure maintenance, and healthcare.


Sorry but I don't recognize hyperbole and sloganeering. It is face paint for not dealing with the issues. I like to deal with specifics man specifics. For example past behavior, direct quotes and proposed policies. General "fan the flames" terms such as "shrinking middle class" & "skyrocketing social inequalities" mean nothing. There are just as many fat cat democratic contributors (anybody remember Bernie Ebbers?) as republicans.

I avoid and condone the good republican/bad democrat thought train and vise versa. It is no way to foster any real cognitive thinking.

Way to early to determine whom I am going to vote for a year from now. Not even close.

Listen, observe and take notes.

Clarity is the key. Now back to music for me . . .


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Clovis
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quote:
Originally posted by CND
Sorry but I don't recognize hyperbole and sloganeering. It is face paint for not dealing with the issues. I like to deal with specifics man specifics. For example past behavior, direct quotes and proposed policies. General "fan the flames" terms such as "shrinking middle class" & "skyrocketing social inequalities" mean nothing. There are just as many fat cat democratic contributors (anybody remember Bernie Ebbers?) as republicans.

I avoid and condone the good republican/bad democrat thought train and vise versa. It is no way to foster any real cognitive thinking.

Way to early to determine whom I am going to vote for a year from now. Not even close.

Listen, observe and take notes.

Clarity is the key. Now back to music for me . . .




I'd agree with most of what you said, but its just not possible for me to get down to specifics trying to reply to you as I sit here at work. But what I said still holds true, I have read and researched to come to those conclusions. I agree with the party lines thinking being bad, but you have to admit theres a clear difference in direction they each want to take the country, especially with Romney & Giuliani as front runners.


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